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I don't really have a ton to say about Doctor Who this week, tbh the ~base under siege~ episodes with the guest cast just aren't really my thing. I mean I don't want to sound negative about it, it was definitely a good episode still and actually one of the stronger example of that format (I didn't care for The Hungry Earth or The Almost People two-parters at all, this was definitely a step-up from them for me), but at the same time it's just not the type of episode that I get particularly excited about :shrug:

I've been trying to catch up with season 6 of The Good Wife so that I can watch season 7 live, so far I'm caught up as far as 611


Poor Cary, he seemed to have his wishes on starting up a new firm from the bottom completely ruled over by Alicia, and then Diane. Diane bringing in a load of partners from L&G, and even getting useless Howard back with them as well so that they could move back into her old offices, that was exactly what Cary and Alicia said that they didn't want when it come to making their firm top-heavy with partners who weren't contributing much. It seemed like, as soon as money problems came up, Alicia forgot all about her idealism and just started overruling Cary on everything, while Diane and Kalinda came up with the plan to get Howard back on-board without even discussing it with Alicia and Cary it seemed??

My impression is that the firm is very much being turned into Diane and Alicia's firm, and Diane especially does not view Cary as an equal in the same way that she does Alicia. Note how it seemed to be automatically assumed that Alicia and Diane would move into Diane and Will's old offices, and Cary ends up in David Lee's office, when if anything that should have been Diane's place IMO as Cary and Alicia are the main partners who started up the firm. Moving into L&G offices just seems to make everything extra awkward though, because of course it would be expected for Diane to move into her old office, and Cary was in no position to kick up a fuss, but really I thought that Alicia should have been more sympathetic as to why Cary wouldn't want to move back there. Even if they didn't want to stay in their run-down new offices, they could/should have gone somewhere else for an entirely fresh start

And I got the feeling that the political campaign storyline wasn't a very popular one from everything that I've heard about season 6's reception, but I don't mind it so far. I *did* find it slightly odd how some episodes this season had no legal case at all, but I still like that whole storyline for what it brings out in Alicia's character, especially when she ended up going up against someone like Prady, a really good and genuine opponent who wants to make a difference. I feel like Alicia likes to believe that about herself, but for her the appeal of politics is a whole lot more about power and having control over her life, so in that way the campaign ended up being a lot more revealing than if it was just about us being meant to root for Alicia going up against a completely scummy opponent. I also really enjoyed the moments of political satire, I'm astonished actually that Julianna didn't even get nominated for her work this year, she was fantastic at portraying Alicia's awkwardness in some of those interviews, especially the press release that they had to repeat and she was completely failing at it the second time

I was however disappointed with some of the behind the scenes stuff, the way that Robyn just disappeared for example. If she was just a background worker and unimportant than okay, but early on she was portrayed as being very close to Alicia and Cary, she was the first one willing to put up money for Cary's bail for a start, then after those first two episodes of the season she just completely disappears and doesn't even make an appearance when Cary is dealing with his trial?? If the actress couldn't be there for whatever reason, they should have at least come up with a quick explanation for her absence, Same with Alicia actually on a slightly different note, I don't know if the writers were just trying to make a deliberate point about how wrapped up in her campaign she was getting and she's starting to separate from her colleagues, but it rang false to me that she wouldn't be in court to support her partner when he was facing a lengthy prison sentence, especially considering that she did care enough to represent him at the beginning of the season. I couldn't help wondering if Alicia was avoiding court because they couldn't have Julianna in the same room as Archie, otherwise it seemed odd how Alicia was hugging Cary and was shown to be very supportive one minute, yet was absent from his entire court case and didn't even show up for the verdict. You would have expected the entire team to be there for that at least!

And the storylines with Alicia's kids often felt pretty pointless to me in past seasons, but I liked how early season 6 made use of Grace's religion when Alicia needed to understand how she could use it in court, or when she was running for office. Heh it was hilarious too when Grace and her friends were singing religious songs in her bedroom, while Alicia and Eli were talking ruthless political strategies in the kitchen! I also thought that the moment in her prayer group when Grace is made uncomfortable when the other kids there praise her for ~converting~ her Mom was very effective, after all of Alicia's insistence on not involving their children in Peter's politics, how ironic that it's now her political campaigning that's affecting her children. (It was soooo strange to me that Alicia being an atheist would even matter to voters, but I guess that's something about American politics that I'm missing?) Major eye-roll at Grace showing her Mother's jokey note to a teacher at the school though, that just felt way too contrived to me that she would be THAT dumb, surely it must have occurred to her that a parent writing a note all about knifing a teacher would be made into a really big deal?

And at this point I've pretty much given up on my early hopes for Peter/Alicia heh (and Peter is getting more smarmy and pushy the further he rises in political office), but the appeal of boring Finn is completely lost on me I'm afraid. He just seems like such a straightforward good guy that I don't see his appeal to Alicia at all, nor do I think that they have a lot of chemistry, he always seemed kind of bland and too much of a Boy Scout. I don't like his haircut much either /shallow. But then the sexiest man on the show to me at the moment is Lemond Bishop (well and Cary of course), so it's possible that I just have really dodgy taste in men :P


And I should really stop gossiping about this lol, but Julianna Margulies says there's no feud with Archie Panjabi She basically says that "There's no animosity on my part...It was shot the way Robert wanted to shoot it", and she suggests that there were scheduling conflicts because of Archie filming The Fall. But then Archie tweeted in response to the article, saying that The Fall wasn't in production at that time (I didn't think it was because I knew that Gillian Anderson has been busy filming Hannibal so far this year), and that she was in New York and ready to film that scene at the time. Umm oops

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Date: 2015-10-05 03:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] malicat.livejournal.com
In the first half of season 6 I didn't mind Alicia's storyline either. Mostly because they also had the big Cary thing going on and other characters that aren't Alicia still got enough screentime. That totally changed later :/

I was however disappointed with some of the behind the scenes stuff, the way that Robyn just disappeared for example.

Unfortunately they do this all the time. Nathan Lane and Taye Diggs disappeared without a word as well :/

ut then the sexiest man on the show to me at the moment is Lemond Bishop (well and Cary of course), so it's possible that I just have really dodgy taste in men :P

Nah,Mike Colter is super hot so I don't blame you at all ^^


just when you think the whole Julianna vs Archie thing couldn't get any more ridiculous,this new update happens. This is just so STUPID *headdesk*
Edited Date: 2015-10-05 03:20 pm (UTC)

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Date: 2015-10-05 03:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] frelling-tralk.livejournal.com
I've heard that the last half of season 6 is when most viewers had problems with it, so I'm bracing myself *g* I've definitely still been enjoying the episodes so far though, even if it was really painful watching everything that Cary went through with the trial :( He's another actor that I'm surprised get overlooked for an Emmy nomination actually, especially as TGW is on their radar and has been nominated quite a bit in the past. He *really* impressed me with how he played Cary's responses to facing a four year sentence. And a bit O/T, but wow that whole plea bargain thing really sucks with how it almost forces innocent people to plead guilty in order to get a lighter sentence, I remember an early episode of TGW had a young college girl scared into accepting an offer of a ten year sentence for a crime that she didn't commit, and then in the end it turned out that the jury hadn't found her guilty anyway...

And yep, if Julianna (understandably) resents it being gossiped about, then I don't know why she couldn't have just sucked it up and filmed at the same time as Archie for one scene, she was the one who made it into a big deal in the first place

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Date: 2015-10-05 03:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] malicat.livejournal.com
I love Alan Cumming as much as the next person and he's always great but I definitely think that Matt C. should have gotten the Emmy nomination instead. he was AMAZING!!!

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Date: 2015-10-05 03:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] frelling-tralk.livejournal.com
:nods: Alan Cumming is fantastic too, but so far this really feels like Matt's year to shine.

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Date: 2015-10-05 03:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] 12-12-12.livejournal.com
And I should really stop gossiping about this lol

I feel bad for being so entertained by this story BUT I CAN'T HELP IT LMAO

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Date: 2015-10-05 03:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] frelling-tralk.livejournal.com
It's just so weird how closed-down the set has been about it for so long, so that we still don't know what the problem is exactly, even though it must be something pretty huge to affect storylines and filming to this extent. It does sound like Archie is ready to say more now that she's left the show, but weirdly sometimes I get the vibe that she's just as baffled by it as we are? Like in past interviews when she's been asked about the lack of scenes, she's talked about it all being down to the executive producers and she would love to have more scenes with Alicia if if were up to her. I mean maybe I'm wrong, but I never got the sense that there been any big falling-out and there's an unspoken understanding of of not wanting to work together if they can help it, rather it came across like Archie was also left wondering what exactly the problem was

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Date: 2015-10-05 03:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/_profiterole_/
Yeah, I wasn't big on that episode of DW either, except that I liked that there was sign language.

About The Good Wife S6, I really disliked all the changes they did with the firms to basically go back to the pre-S5 status quo. The political campaign was interesting at first but you'll see that it's going to get worse. But yeah, more Mike Colter was a good thing of S6. :D

LOL at the no-feud comment. XD

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Date: 2015-10-05 03:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] frelling-tralk.livejournal.com
Yeah DW was well-paced enough to draw me in certainly, but I just never get overtly attached to these episodes I suppose, I rarely do care about the guest cast in those sort of episodes as much as I suspect that we're suppose too. I'm really in it more for the main characters

And it was weird how much they rushed to undo all of season 5's changes, it came across like it was more for bts reasons again actually like with Robyn's availability, I got the feeling that going back to their old offices was mostly about them wanting to reuse the expensive L&G sets that had been build for the show. It was all right when Will and Diane were still there and working against F&A, but once Diane joined up with them there was less reason to use those sets that it probably cost a lot to build. But it takes you out of the show when you can almost see the thought processes for why the writers are doing it lol, especially after Diane was originally so gung-ho about F&A's offices reminding her of how exciting it was to just be starting out, it made little character sense for her to then immediately turn them into L&G again in all but name

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Date: 2015-10-05 04:01 pm (UTC)
thisbluespirit: (dw - twelve)
From: [personal profile] thisbluespirit
it was definitely a good episode still and actually one of the stronger example of that format (I didn't care for The Hungry Earth or The Almost People two-parters at all, this was definitely a step-up for them for me), but at the same time it's just not the type of episode that I get particularly excited about

Yes, me too! I mean it's a silly thing to dislike and be a DW fan because they've been doing them since at least The Tenth Planet if not before and I doubt they'll stop soon, but my heart sinks every time New Who does it.

That said, I actually really enjoyed that one. It's just - lots of dim lighting, claustrophobia, and emphasis on tenseness/scariness and picking the crew off is not me. I like more character stuff and lighter moments in there. And brighter lighting! (I was not a child of the 1980s BBC for nothing! :lol:)

You're the first other person I've come across who seems to have a similar reaction. :-)

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Date: 2015-10-05 04:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] frelling-tralk.livejournal.com
Heh it's hard to think of what to say really because it's certainly not a bad episode, but it's just not a terribly exciting one to me when we're introduced to a group of new characters and have to start caring about them in a short space of time. I'm definitely in DW more for the character moments with the main cast, while characters are usually pretty thinly-sketched in the base under siege episodes, and this was no exception IMO. (Rather surprisingly actually considering that Toby Whitehouse generally has put a lot more emphasis on characterisation in his past episodes and tended to focus on the Doctor/companion relationship, although of course this did still have the odd moment of the Doctor worrying about Clara becoming too much like him)

Maybe it would make a difference if the horror was more affective for me, because as you say a lot of it is about horror and creating an atmosphere of claustrophobia, but none of it jumped out at me as particularly scary which probably didn't help.

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Date: 2015-10-05 05:19 pm (UTC)
thisbluespirit: (dw - individual daleks)
From: [personal profile] thisbluespirit
It's a funny thing - I love so many guest Classic Who characters to pieces and yet so few New Who. Even when it's a two-parter and in theory you've got the same sort of screen time. I think the only two who really worked it immediately were that pair in Hide. But, yes, I was hoping for a bit more Doctor-Clara here, especially as they were apart for most of the opening two-parter (not that I am complaining about the wonderful Clara-Missy interaction, because obviously not).

Ha, I so don't do horror! They couldn't win on these ones with me even if they got properly scary! (I'm relieved they mostly don't!)

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Date: 2015-10-05 07:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bm-shipper.livejournal.com
I read the article on tvline about Julianna saying that there was no feud with Archie. Not watching the show, but of course even me as an "outsider" has heard about that scene and some other things... oh well... I definitely think someone is lying and not everything is adding up. They should really get their stories straight.

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Date: 2015-10-05 08:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] frelling-tralk.livejournal.com
Yeah I don't know what to think frankly, it was *just* about plausible when they were coming up with excuses for why the characters were separated on-screen for two and a half years, but the use of split screen when they did finally get a scene together seems far too odd. Odder still for Julianna to suddenly throw in Archie's filming commitments elsewhere as the reason for it, surely that's something that the executive producers would have immediately brought up when they were asked about it, if that was in fact why the actresses couldn't film at the same time?

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Date: 2015-10-05 08:37 pm (UTC)
sabotabby: raccoon anarchy symbol (hand tardis)
From: [personal profile] sabotabby
The base under siege thing is normally not my thing, but I thought they kinda turned it on its head. Obstructionist corporate guy died right away. The question of "why stay?" was addressed in a nuanced manner. There was a deaf character played by a deaf actress. (That last one has nothing to do with base-under-siege plots, I just really liked that they did that.) It had genuinely creepy moments. So I enjoyed it.

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Date: 2015-10-05 08:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] frelling-tralk.livejournal.com
True, I'm probably being too hard on it as it was a strong example of the format definitely, it's just not an episode that I end up having a ton of thoughts on. I did like that they made the deaf character the leader though, rather than the more obvious cliche of her being overlooked by them all prior to the moment of her lip-reading proving useful
Edited Date: 2015-10-05 08:59 pm (UTC)

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Date: 2015-10-06 12:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] caitie.livejournal.com
RME for days at the latest Good Wife drama. It pretty much ruined the show for me.

To thicken the plot, I saw that one of the original TWOP founders tweeted that Julianna was so pretty it's too bad she is such a biotch. (This was the other day before this latest drama.) Then a Buzzfeed critic and a NYP editor both chimed in all like, um we heard it the other way around. Kate Arthur (the Buzzfeed one) said she has literally heard dozens of times that Archie Panjabi is... difficult I guess. When pressed all she would say is she was mean to the crew. And that is just who spoke up publicly. I saw her tell one of the go fug yourself bloggers that she heard Archie was "crazy" and "impossible to work with, etc." All hearsay obviously but interesting nonetheless.

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Date: 2015-10-06 09:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] frelling-tralk.livejournal.com
I mean I suppose that it could be Archie, it just seems like a real stretch that she would have that much star power on set that she could just refuse to film with the lead actress (not to mention how that actively hurt her character to have no involvement with lead storylines). It already seems weird enough that the King's would go along with the request if it came from executive producer Julianna, not giving two of their main characters scenes together for two and a half years, filming their last scene two separate times to keep them apart on set. That's the strangest part to me actually lol, I'm sure there are many actors who hate working together and would refuse if they could, but the King's actively re-working storylines to make that happen just seems above and beyond.

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Date: 2015-10-06 09:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ever-neutral.livejournal.com
I LOVED DOCTOR WHO THIS WEEK. But I am a sucker for bottle episodes!

Cackling at your Lemond Bishop lust. Hey, the dude is hardly unattractive.

MarguLIES can keep trying for my amusement. I’m particularly ????? at her “if it was two men, when one finds out he fucked his best friend’s wife, would it get the same attention” comment, because WTF does that have to do with her and Archie? DID ARCHIE SCREW HER HUSBAND IRL TOO? lulz.

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Date: 2015-10-06 04:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] frelling-tralk.livejournal.com
The whole thing is just ridiculous at this point, they keep trying with the Kalinda sleeping with Peter excuse, but that's completely ignoring that the characters had made up to an extent in seasons 3 and 4 and were able to work together again, even if they weren't besties. They keep treating the audience like they're idiots, there's no rational explanation for why Alicia and Kalinda had NO scenes together for the entirety of season 5 and 6, baring a single scene which they filmed at separate times for no discernible reason. But of course nobody would question it if it were two men having to film their single scene together in over two years with the use of split screen :rolleyes:

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Date: 2015-10-09 11:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cynthia2015.livejournal.com
I LOVED DOCTOR WHO THIS WEEK. But I am a sucker for bottle episodes!

It's hard for me to rate the first half of the story, I appreciated the humor though.
I was more surprised that there was a cliffhanger again, than surprised by the actual cliffhanger. If you know what I mean.

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Date: 2015-10-06 12:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sunclouds33.livejournal.com
It's possible that JM didn't get nominated because of the some of the inside baseball stuff with Archie. I think Emmy voters "in the know" are influenced by likability within their own rarified Hollywood community.

I agree with some of the comments upthread that Alicia's election storyline came off far more interesting in the first half of S6, when other characters had meaty storylines too. However, I agree that it consistently works as an exploration of Alicia's character to put her under the election microscope. I think it accomplishes a pretty rare feat where the storyline deconstructs and critiques Alicia but it also critiques the audience through the voters in their incessant, irrational demands for Alicia (as any Strong Female Character TM) to be all things to all people when the natural result of that is phoniness, best case scenario.

Aw, Carey! I wanted to give him a hug (....that could lead to other stuff too...) at this point of the series.

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Date: 2015-10-06 05:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] frelling-tralk.livejournal.com
I did wonder about that, because this is the first time that she hasn't been nominated I believe? I don't think that any of the BTS stuff should take away from her acting though, and she really deserved a nomination for her work in season 6

And Carey really is very effective with the puppy dog eyes, I'm glad that I didn't watch those episodes live actually, it would have killed me to have waited months for a resolution!

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Date: 2015-10-07 05:19 am (UTC)
ext_5774: (Teen Wolf - (315) Stiles flashlight)
From: [identity profile] marishna.livejournal.com
I don't watch TGW but that JM/AP "feud" or "non-feud", if JM is to be believed, is bullshit. I delightful to follow from afar, LOL.

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Date: 2015-10-07 09:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] frelling-tralk.livejournal.com
A lot of people at ontd have been saying the same thing about not really following the show, but being drawn in by the behind the scenes messiness *g*

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Date: 2015-10-11 11:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] firefish.livejournal.com
I'm only on Season Three of the show but I still read your thoughts on the later seasons anyway. I'm sure I'll forget all about it by the time I get to this season.

The stuff about the feud is so mad. I can't believe that Archie is still stirring the pot. I'd love to know more about that. Or rather, I'd love to know what's going on and then if everyone could stop talking about it, that would be cool!

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Date: 2015-10-11 04:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] frelling-tralk.livejournal.com
Heh yeah I was reading ahead on some of that stuff too when I was catching up *g* It all just seems so extreme that it begs for some kind of explanation

And I can't wait to hear what you think of the later seasons!