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I know. I just can't even. But then again these are the writers that woudln't call Chuck a rapists just a kissing bandit. SO MUCH HATE.

I just love how they are being called out on twitter for it BIGTIME, and an article has already been written in response to that interview

http://blog.zap2it.com/frominsidethebox/2011/05/gossip-girl-is-chuck-bass-abusive-ep-says-no-we-beg-to-differ.html is pure win

I left a comment on that article because they called them out and I really doubt other media sources will do that. Also I hardly use twitter but I tweeted the writers. Just so they get even more annoyed because that shit they just tried to justify is not romantic or epic or love.

Heh me too, I was inspired to dig out my twitter account for the first time in a while #saveblairFROMchuck

And a lot of the media has actually been pretty positive towards Dan and Blair, so I'm interested in the response (and the ratings...) when the show start pushing Blar back towards Chuck yet again

I can't believe it.

I stop watching GG cause there was so much craziness and I promise myself I would only watch again if there was going to be something between Dan/Blair, but neither that helped cause I just can't :/

Idk I was really optimistic for Dair, and I thought the writers had pretty much destroyed their ~endgame~ for Chuck and Blair with the latest episode ending in him forcing himself on her, but the fact that a writers interview turns it into being all about Chuck's pain and how he would never hurt Blair??? I guess I must have imagined the storyline when Chuck sexually humiliated Blair into selling herself for his hotel and she broke down in front of him!!! Or you know the beginning of this season when he vowed to destory Blair and take everything away from her

The relationship has been abusive for a looong time now, last episode was just the final straw and it's an insult for the writer to focus on the cut was unintentional and "dainty" and Blair doesn't see it as abuse so it's all good. Putting aside that whole assault, the way that Chuck has emotionally abused and degraded Blair for so long now is abusive on its own

I use to like Chuck & Blair, til last season and the exact moment you just wrote about it.

Cause let's face it, who could actually try to pimp her girlfriend to his uncle!!!?

Then as you said, his mission was destroy her, destroy her dreams, everything that she wanted. And now he was telling her that she was "his"?

And writers are actually saying he will never hurt her? I've just saw thir las scene and throw a girl to the couch and just force her, for me it's hurt someone.

But he has done it from a long time, I hope this it's the last season of GG.

I used to ship Chair too, and then this season it really felt like they were intentionally shining a light about what was fucked-up about them all along in order to lead in to the set-up for Dair. The scene of Dan holding a distressed Blair's hand as "I will never let you down" plays is what first made me really start shipping them

But then you read the interviews with the writers singing about Blair was not afraid in that scene with Chuck and hey how about that scene of Chair on chairs, and it's just like wtf what show was I watching. Leighton played that moment as terrified, she was ducking from his fist??? How it was supposed to be about her being afraid FOR Chuck just makes no sense with what was portrayed on-screen

I don't know why but I've like this two together since Dan took away her headband and help her to fit in NYU.

And of course when they were plotting agains Georgina too :P.

How could she not be afraid? if she wasn't she could have stay and talk about it, but instead she run away.

And if she was afraid for Chuck, she would have help to clean his wound or something like that (but again, they would be sending an awful message, cause she will be there helping after he almost hit her).

I didn't get the Dan and Blair appeal at all in the earlier seasons to be honest, but the writers totally won me over this season. It's sad to see their potential wasted

And she definitely seems afraid to me in this gif. I just don't understand how a writer can come out and say that Chuck would never hurt Blair and that wasn't their intention, so why are they writing it that way???? That scene was not directed as Blair just being worried for Chuck, I don't even know what to say any more

And there is a Dair Youtube channel to help us avoid the rest of the show!, but I guess we'll just have to wait and see if they ever do anything with them again. It's pretty clear that none of the writers believe that Blair does deserve better than Chuck though, so I don't know what to think any more :/

Thank you for that! I will look for their scenes in this season :).

That it's what scares me most, cause yeah yeah blah blah Blair&Chuck are meant to be, but after this, how could they? it's sending the wrong message, that isn't true love, it isn't love at all!.

Even if Dan/Blair doesn't end up together at least I hope they remain friends cause she needs someone like him in her life.

Wow. I mean, WOW. The zap2it post lays out even more background and makes it so, so much clearer.

OK, here's my question:

Josh Safran is clearly, *empirically*, a man who does not recognize rape when he sees it.

Do you think he is a rapist? My guess, as a pure outsider to the fandom, is "he doesn't think so."

But if he isn't, I would bet real money that some guy he's close to is. Safran thinks like an abuser, and either he is one or he's in the habit of talking and spending time with someone who is.

It's not even just the male writers, there was very clearly a scene of Chuck forcing himself on a struggling 14 year old girl and her older brother had to pull him off her. And the female showrunner then came out with "in fairness, Chuck was an attempted kissing bandit"

I honestly believed that a textbook abusive relationship was being written with Chuck and Blair this season with set-up for Blair finally finding her happiness with Dan. I did NOT expect a writer to suddenly come out with "we do not believe that it is abuse when it's the two of them" and that Chuck would supposedly never hurt Blair. This season alone he has fallen in love with two other women, whilst snarling at Blair so much as looking at another man, and only comes crawling back to Blair for comfort when his Daddy issues become too much for him. It's disgusting to see him still being idealized as a romantic leading man

"kissing bandit".

WHAT THE FUCKING FUCK?!?!?

So either this supports my mean, nasty theory that Hollywood sexual culture is a cross between that depicted in "Mad Men" and street prostitution (http://mecurtin.dreamwidth.org/60896.html), or Safran is a rapist. Or maybe he just *admires* them.

He certainly seems to have no problems with glorifying Chuck, and it's even more disturbing that the women interviewing him is coming out with comments like

"the consequence of that fight was Blair had the most perfect, beautiful, dainty injury"

I mean wtf is that supposed to even mean when you are talking about a scene of someone smashing glass in a drunken rage??? The romanticizing of abuse in that whole interview is some of the sickest stuff I have read in a while

I saw a clip on ONTD of the scene and...I don't see any room to defend that. WTH? I don't watch Gossip Girl, but is Chuck normally like that?

He's having a ~downward spiral~ at the moment so this is more of a low point, but he has a lot of them. For a start there's this scene http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ik9am60q6hM&feature=related which says a lot about his attiude to women :/

I used to ship them tbh, but as a fun power couple. They reminded me a little bit of Kathryn and Sebastian from Cruel Intentions (one of my secret fav ships!), but the way that Chuck treats Blair has just become so degrading in the last two seasons

Oh my god. I don't watch the show, but I went search for the video and watched it and just... wow. "He punches the glass because he has rage." Um... YOU THINK?! He's raging, telling her she's only his, manhandling her to the couch, forcing himself on her, and then becomes so angry that he lashes out and punches a window. He could have just as easily hit her and truthfully, I was expecting him to with the way he was talking/acting toward her. He hurt her, physically and emotionally... and that guy wants to DEFEND that? WTF. She looked terrified to me.

I KNOW, RIGHT!! And the writer wants to play it as "I think it's very clear that Blair is not afraid in those moments, for herself...Leighton and I were very clear about that." That's the complete opposite of what I was watching, and the fact that Blair has to duck suggests to me that he would have punched her in the face if she hadn't of got out of the way in time

telling her she's only his

And he's always talking about Blair like she's his property, it's quite disgusting. But hey apparently it's all good because he has ~rage and we all know that "it is not abuse when it's the two of them"

Very OT but

YOUR ICOOOOOON! :D

Those two are so cute, I really hope they become a couple next season :D

I hope so to! cause they get each other so well. I don't like Matt at all! and now I like him even less cause he keeps lying to her face.

I don't watch GG or anything, but I was curious and found the scene in the comments and oh, no. There is nothing abusive about that. Not even a little bit. Now I'm off to watch my favorite romantic comedy, A Streetcar Named Desire. That Stanley! What a dreamboat!

(BTW, my favorite part of that ONTD post was two people I don't even know in fandom calling MLV psycho in the comments. I love feeling validated)

And it wasn't just that last scene, he was so disgusting earlier in the episode when he crashed the party to degrade Blair and talk about eating "her cake" to the family of Blair's current boyfriend that Blair was trying to make a good impression on. He is repulsive, he completely humiliated Blair and he was grabbing her hand and trying to force a ring on to her finger in that scene

(BTW, my favorite part of that ONTD post was two people I don't even know in fandom calling MLV psycho in the comments. I love feeling validated)

Oh she's always trolling GG posts now. Someone said that she doesn't even watch the show when she makes out she ships Chuck and Blair, she just keeps coming into the posts and posting them because one of the Dair posters upset her by trashing Smallville or something :eyeroll:

Edited Date: 2011-05-04 01:15 pm (UTC)

She's an interesting specimen of troll. So scarily committed.

I'd recently thought of watching GG with summer coming as so many people on my f-list watch and I trust their judgment, but it sounds like a bad bet if this is how it plays out. That post had pages of comments and all pretty disgusted.

I will say that season 1 was a very good season and worth watching, but other than that the show is kind of all over the place. So many people have said that it's like the Dan and Blair scenes exist in a different show the the rest of it, and that is so true. There is a Dair YouTube channel that is good to follow for just their isolated scenes, but the show itself has been just awful lately

Edited Date: 2011-05-04 07:38 pm (UTC)

O.o

I'm just stunned, I was so sure the show was finally setting up to end Chuck and Blair for good as the toxic mess they have become, instead they condone the whole thing as some kind of volatile relationship. Well no kidding, but in what world is it NOT abusive to invade a woman's personal space, shove her, and scream that YOU'RE MINE. I couldn't care less if the glass cut was unintentional, he shouldn't have had her pinned and slamming his fist into glass right above her head in the first place!

Ugh, that whole interview is such bullshit. I was hoping for Dair BTH.

Also, I noticed in the comments cricketgrl's still trolling around. jesus, some things never change.

I was too :/

But whatever happens I think (hope!) they are going to have to seriously question their excusing of Chuck at this point. It's really blown up on twitter, and people have now stated contacting the CW and the advertiser's to point out that a GG writer is condoning abuse

And another article has been published now

http://jezebel.com/#!5798390/violence-passed-off-as-romance-on-gossip-girl

in all honesty, I cant even remember what storylines they have.
I just watch it for the dresses blair is wearing...

Heh I should get back to that and avoiding the writers interviews, they just make me rage :/

Blair's dress at the pink party was so gorgeous! And I remember the costume designer saying that the episodes in Paris were worth waching for the clothes alone, and so true!

.....You are tearing me apart Gossip Girl. I shouldn't have such cognitive dissonance to ship my favorite couple. There was NO reason for what happened in the last episode a.) IN GENERAL because it was horrible and b.) if the writers aren't even going to acknowledge that what Chuck did was fucked up on an epic proportion and make him redeem himself in a MAJOR way. I read some article where one of the writers were like "Well I don't think he needs to *redeem* himself necessarily..." Like who dropped this person on the head as a child? He pushed her down and then punched a wall directly over her head. HOW IS THAT OK?

UGH. Gossip Girl, you used to be my crack filled happy place. I feel like all the writers are taking crazy pills if they don't look at that scene and think it was abusive. I miss the days when Chuck just used to stalk people and try to jump off roofs.

I just don't see the point in coming out with an interview stressing how much Chuck could never hurt Blair, right after they just wrote a scene of him aiming his fist in her general direction. I mean even if he wasn't necessarily aiming to hit her, if their intention was to show Blair afraid for Chuck only then why not have him turned away from Blair and smashing his fist into the wall or something! Instead of assaulting her, and then telling us we saw the complete opposite of what actually airing

It's so confusing because for a while now I've suspected they've been trying to kill Chair, and last episode felt like the final nail in the coffin like no way will they have him throw Blair down and scream "you're mine" if they had any plans to reunite them romantically. And then they come out with that, and tell us we should have just been seeing it as a volatile romance

And you mean this from just a few weeks ago

http://www.dvdboxroom.com/news/1490-Gossip-Girl-Chuck-Bass-needs-to-be-redeemed.html
"Redeeming Chuck... that's a term that I've seen on Twitter. There's a big redeem Chuck and Blair and redeem Chuck Bass tweet thing. My thing is, and I know Stephanie believes this and Josh [Schwartz] believes this as well, the drama from shows comes out of characters doing things necessarily that aren't always right," Safran explained. "It was always the thing about "Sex and the City dvd" and Carrie always made mistakes constantly and you understand it because that's what life is. We all make mistakes. No one goes through perfectly. I don't think that Chuck necessarily needs to be redeemed so much as he actually needs to find his way, which is different."

:dies: How are they going to compare him to Carrie from Sex And The City and no one is perfect, IS THIS REAL LIFE????

This is why I can't mess with fandom or ONTD at all. I am sorry I will ship Chuck-Blair in GG AU fannon but after that last episode I don't think I can attempt to this. It was uncomfortable for me to watch. I thought he was going to seriously rape her or worse. Sadly like so many others stated that isn't even the worse thing he's done. Pimping B out for a hotel and then sleeping with Jenny before proposing to Blair. Ick! [I am still trying to forget that one].

Josh and Co has destroyed Chuck and CB thoroughly. DB has always been my GG AU couple-friendship since season 1 and Dan is good for her vice versa. If anything that article pissed me off more I am sorry but CB need to break up for good because this dragging Blair's characterization down while Chuck's is destroyed permanently. TBH Chuck hasn't been quite the same since after the strike in season 1.

Josh and Co has destroyed Chuck and CB thoroughly.

It really does feel like they've intentionally been trying to destroy them as a couple, which makes it even more confusing when they write a clear assault scene, and then come out and say it wasn't really an assault at all when it's the two of them. If they didn't want the audience turning on Chuck and Chuck/Blair, it's not like they were being forced to write it that way so I just don't understand what their goal is

I mean the quotes alone tell you what a mess that relationship is for Blair, it killed me when she was telling Serena, "Chuck had brought me into darkness for so long, I forgot what joy felt like". And we're still supposed to be seeing Chair as an acceptable endgame for her???

It really does feel like they've intentionally been trying to destroy them as a couple, which makes it even more confusing when they write a clear assault scene, and then come out and say it wasn't really an assault at all when it's the two of them. If they didn't want the audience turning on Chuck and Chuck/Blair, it's not like they were being forced to write it that way so I just don't understand what their goal is

This. I don't get it either and why would Josh and co tear down the "fan favorite" just to start another couple this late in the seasons. Makes no sense to me either. I realy think Josh and co do drama for the sake of drama because he knows the actors can better than some of the others. Which is stupid.

I mean the quotes alone tell you what a mess that relationship is for Blair, it killed me when she was telling Serena, "Chuck had brought me into darkness for so long, I forgot what joy felt like". And we're still supposed to be seeing Chair as an acceptable endgame for her???

Agreed. That killed me too I felt so sorry for her. He really put her through hell. At this point I wouldn't want Blair in space with him let alone the same vicinity.

Your Donna icon is awesome! :)

Oh, thanks for this link! I wanted to find this ONTD post again and couldn't because the comm moves so fast.

The interview makes me RAGE every time I read it but the reactions at ONTD are so cathartic. :)

NP! You can find the latest posts on it through the GG tag

http://ohnotheydidnt.livejournal.com/tag/gossip%20girl

Isn't today your birthday? Happy birthday.

Thank you :)

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