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Let go of the woobie is worth a read. It references Lex a lot, as well as Spike, Brian from QAF, Logan, and Draco. I loved this
the writers instead chose to highlight his wicked ways by suddenly revealing halfway through season four that Lex... had one night stands! With several different women! And he gave them diamond earrings afterwards! Send some of that evil my way, why don't you? Clark's pissy reaction to the news that his single, adult friend had sex was hilarious, mostly because he came off as jealous rather than indignant.
And lol does anyone know where Big Dumb Alien originated? Isn't it usually used as a term of affection? Well except in season 3, when Clark shoves Lex aside and Omar recaps it as something like, "Watch out. Big Dumb Alien coming through" *giggles*
the writers instead chose to highlight his wicked ways by suddenly revealing halfway through season four that Lex... had one night stands! With several different women! And he gave them diamond earrings afterwards! Send some of that evil my way, why don't you? Clark's pissy reaction to the news that his single, adult friend had sex was hilarious, mostly because he came off as jealous rather than indignant.
And lol does anyone know where Big Dumb Alien originated? Isn't it usually used as a term of affection? Well except in season 3, when Clark shoves Lex aside and Omar recaps it as something like, "Watch out. Big Dumb Alien coming through" *giggles*
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Date: 2006-02-19 11:53 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2006-02-20 12:02 am (UTC)I mean there's no people woobifying Angelus say, because he's pure villain
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Date: 2006-02-20 12:06 am (UTC)Clark usually approaches him when he's either angry or needs a favor. With friends like that...
hmm thats true, we never really see Lex and Clark going out to a *cough*gay*Cough* nightclub together, you know just socializing, most of the time its just Clark storming into his office angry or asking for a favour, I still like Clark, but come on! you're supposed to be friends! go and talk to lex! make out with him too! go on!
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Date: 2006-02-20 12:10 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2006-02-20 12:21 am (UTC)haha I can't stop staring at your icon, Its hypnotizing.
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Date: 2006-02-20 12:27 am (UTC)Vince was my fav, but I did like Stuart all right. I prefer him to the US version, just for being so unapologetic. It becomes cheesy for every character to have a bad childhood. Sometimes people are mean to others just cause they can be...
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Date: 2006-02-20 12:46 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2006-02-20 11:06 am (UTC)Stuart often had me thinking "you bastard", but he made an interesting tv character still, so that was all right then. Brian's okay, but Stuart is the cooler character
Vince was just lovely (I can't stand Michael on the US version though)
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Date: 2006-02-20 07:11 pm (UTC)Vince is just a loveable character!
I remember being so happy when I found out Russell T. Davies was going to write for Doctor Who, hes a great writer, I knew that Russel would do a good job with it. hes got two great shows under his belt, he hasn't done too badly!
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Date: 2006-02-20 12:20 am (UTC)My brother theorised that the writers *know* Clarke is coming across as a complete shit and are doing it on purpose to show the personality sacrifices needed to become a superhero.
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Date: 2006-02-20 12:23 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2006-02-20 12:28 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2006-02-20 02:57 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2006-02-20 12:35 am (UTC)*sniffs* Poor little woobie...
Oooh you know what would have been cool? After Asylum, the asylum stay was only refered to in terms of Lex needing to put his dad away.
But the end of Asylum was pretty chilling with the slightly lobotomized Lex we got. And it was weird that the ECT would take away exactly the right memories, and nothing else. If Lex had huge holes in his brain from then on, like say if Clark brings up Helen, and Lex just stares at him blankly. They didn't really do much with consequences of what the ECT did to him though.
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Date: 2006-02-20 09:26 am (UTC)LOL! That would be cool.
He seems to have forgotten all about Lucas. And about those guys who wear uniforms like cops, but you can hire them and they like keep people from barging into your house and hitting you in the head and kidnapping you and stuff. What are those called again?
:-)
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Date: 2006-02-20 11:21 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2006-02-20 06:14 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2006-02-20 06:24 pm (UTC)Even JS has said that they are great at writing Lex's journey, but are failing at Clark's. And he made those comments during season 3. Of course season 4 didn't do many favours for Lex's character either
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Date: 2006-02-21 01:53 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2006-02-21 09:57 am (UTC)I saw a parallel betwen seasons 3 and 5, with Cyborg seeing a Lex that is guilty of the accusations. And he pleaded innocence and convinced Clark he was telling the truth, in exactly the same way he did in season 3 when he actually was. I think Cyborg has several reminders of the past clex interaction, and it does make you think about what came first. The accusations, or Lex living down to everyone elses image of him.
I'm not making excuses for Lex, just. Well thinking back in season 1, Lex wanted to prove himself to the town of Smallville. He constantly reached out to Jonathon Kent, wanting to try and change his impression of Lex. Time and time again Jonathon slaps him back, by the time of season 2 Lionel is mocking Lex and pointing out he will never be accpeted by the Kent's, and just accept his own nature. Which is, when it comes down to it, the same lesson Jonathon has ben giving Lex. By the time of season 3, post-Asylum, there is barely any Lex/Kent interaction. Lex has given up there. He is still trying to impress Clark, but more and more Clark isn't buying that Lex has good intentions. I think that does make a difference. If neither of your father figures believe in you for a start, ot keep giving you second chances (Vortex, Obscura, Prodigal), only to jerk you around later. If your friend starts constantly accusing you of being some scumbag.
I know when my family are screaming at me for things I haven't done, it really doesn't give me the incentive to be a better person for them. Usually it just makes me angry, and to not want to try. And Lex does keep trying, however half-heartedly, for a long time. And that's when literally everyone is smacking him down, and even his friends aren't in his corner.
Even now, Clark doesn't say make comments about Lex is better than the experiments, or doing so and so would be a wrong thing to do. He just basically tells Lex "you are a bad person". There really aren't a lot of places to go from there, but down. And maybe Clark is too young to handle this well, so we should sympathise. But he appointed himself as Lex's moralising teacher. He was "self-righteous" enough if you like, to think that was the job for him. Instead of just trying to be Lex's friend. And ultimately IMO he botched it.
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Date: 2006-02-20 06:20 am (UTC)Seriously. We're not made of stone. :)
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Date: 2006-02-20 06:26 am (UTC)"Watch out. Big Dumb Alien coming through"
LOL!!
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Date: 2006-02-20 11:22 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2006-02-20 09:48 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2006-02-20 11:26 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2006-02-20 09:56 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2006-02-20 11:29 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2006-02-20 10:05 am (UTC)Didn't Big Dumb Alien originate with Omar? Using it whenever Clark does something stupid and not very future-superman like? Which is quite a large proportion of the time! :-P
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Date: 2006-02-20 11:28 am (UTC)Magnificant Bastard definitely originated with Omar, but I don't know about BDA
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Date: 2006-02-20 11:57 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2006-02-20 08:51 pm (UTC)Now, Lex, yes, he is a woobie. He's really cool, too, he's all that and a bag of chips. But every single person in his life has betrayed him and turned away from him and let him down. It just makes me want him to have someone who will love him and be there for him.
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Date: 2006-02-21 12:02 am (UTC)Yeah! lol