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I really enjoyed it actually! I was surprised at how many changes they made from the book though, for some reason I had it in my head that it was going to be a pretty close retelling of it. One thing that stood out to me was I remember (although disclaimer that it has been a few years since I read it now!)Gary being around to sow discord for a LOT longer in the book, and I think that really helped with building up the tension. I can still remember the creepiness of the reveal that, after they voted to kick him out, turns out he stayed hidden downstairs in the basement all along! The film in comparison deals with him turning on them all pretty quickly, even the moment of the monsters being let in to the house seemed a lot scarier in the book somehow, Olympia's death especially did not really live up to how I pictured it in my head.

Also I’m not sure about the films choice to keep Tom alive after that night, to me it makes more sense that Malorie became as tough and hardened as she did because she was the sole survivor with the two babies to take care of, I’m not sure that their early upbringing would have turned out the same at all if Tom had been around as a gentler influence on Malorie?

And of course the final big change was that in the book Malorie is freaked out to realise that the new community she finds had been deliberately blinding people in the beginning. I guess I can understand why they wanted to go for a simpler happy ending for the film version, but still people blinding themselves in this world does make a lot of sense? It seemed a bit odd not to deal with that part of it at all

After all my nitpicking on the changes to the book though, I definitely did really enjoy it! Sandra was especially great in it. Gave it four stars on letterboxed


And it’s just been confirmed today that The Punisher and Jessica Jones are both cancelled, with Netflix not even having the decency to wait for JJ’s third season to even air first 😡 This open letter from Jeph Loeb seems somewhat hopeful though that Disney might be having discussions to continue them on another platform? It seems like a no-brainer if they want goodwill and a big launch for expanding Hulu internationally

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Date: 2019-02-18 06:09 pm (UTC)
violateraindrop: (The Defenders: Matt & Jessica)
From: [personal profile] violateraindrop
a big launch for expanding Hulu internationally
I haven't even thought about that with Disney+ also coming this year, but it makes sense.

I'm not surprised at all that both shows are canceled, but I really thought they'd wait until JJ is out, stringing fans along. Maybe Netflix just didn't care anymore...

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Date: 2019-02-18 06:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] frelling-tralk.livejournal.com
I would also think that it would be great publicity for Disney’s new streaming service, just imagine the number of grateful fans saying that they have a loyal subscriber in them in that case, but apparently Disney want to keep all of that content family friendly, so it seems like the next best guess is Hulu? They don’t have *that much* original content yet, I get the impression that most people subscribe more for access to all of the network shows, and in the past they’ve said that one reason for waiting on expanding internationally is that they wouldn’t really have enough content. Here in the U.K. for example a lot of the content that you find on Hulu in America has already been licensed to Sky or to Amazon Prime. So it would seem like a total gift to have 5 new shows with already build-in fanbases that they can then promote as exclusive to Hulu from now on, they could even bring back The Defenders as well?

(Also I hope that Hulu does arrive here by the summer, I really want to watch the new Veronica Mars mini series that they’ve picked up!)

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Date: 2019-02-20 05:25 pm (UTC)
violateraindrop: (The Defenders)
From: [personal profile] violateraindrop
I wonder if Disney+ will be rolled out internationally or if it's US only at the beginning. That's why I didn't even consider them expanding Hulu.

Here in the U.K. for example a lot of the content that you find on Hulu in America has already been licensed to Sky or to Amazon Prime.
It's the same in Germany. For The Handmaid's Tale, you'd have to subscribe to MagentaTV which is not something I knew even existed until I saw promo posters for THT. And Netflix doesn't have the rights for House of Cards here because they sold them before expanding.

I agree that it would be smart to revive the shows on Hulu for international distribution.

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Date: 2019-02-21 01:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] frelling-tralk.livejournal.com
I’m not sure about Disney+ actually, I’ve just heard that Hulu should be coming to more countries from this year, but it would make sense to me if Disney+ is also included in that as they would have plenty of content I imagine

Majority of Hulu shows (not the originals, but the network shows that are apparently included on Hulu in America) seem to be on Amazon Prime for us at the moment. It will be interesting to see what changes there when Hulu does become available in the U.K. , because at the moment it feels like one of those rare times when the U.K. comes out ahead by having most of the shows in one place, rather than spread out across CBS Acccess, Hulu and other sites. Prime has The Good Wife, The Good Fight, Supernatural, Buffy, Angel, Dollhouse, X-Files, Lost, Runaways, Empire, Grey’s Anatomy, Bones, Prison Break, White Coller, Will And Grace, The Office etc etc etc. I don’t care about most of their originals admittedly, but they’ve really stepped it up lately with adding older box sets to binge, and my understanding is that that’s more of a Hulu thing in America

I imagine that the content will become more divided up once Hulu debuts here though, but certainly at the moment it feels like a rare thing for a streaming site to actually have more content to offer the U.K. than the US for once
Edited Date: 2019-02-21 01:59 pm (UTC)

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Date: 2019-05-01 07:25 pm (UTC)
violateraindrop: (Luke Cage)
From: [personal profile] violateraindrop
It's been a while since my last comment, but now we know that Disney+ will only be rolled out in the US at first. I also haven't heard anything new about Hulu crossing the pond. Although I could imagine it's more likely that the UK gets stuff first. Germans and French(?) like their dubbing.

Amazon also has some rights for Hulu shows here. Germany has most stuff on Prime and Netflix, but we also have Magenta and Sky. The latter has Game of Thrones which is a big sell apparently. There is also Maxdome which has the rights for a couple of network shows, like The Resident and Grey's Anatomy, and some original German content which I have zero interest in.

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Date: 2019-05-01 07:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] frelling-tralk.livejournal.com
I haven’t heard an exact date for Hulu, but last year they were saying that it should expand internationally sometime in 2019 now that Disney have shares in it, but I’ve no idea if that’s still the case or not. They really seem to be dragging their feet on it, maybe they want to wait until they get enough original content as they seem to be commissioning a lot more shows lately, but it’s just getting frustrating at this point when Netflix has been worldwide since 2012....

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Date: 2019-02-18 07:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/_profiterole_/
I can't say I'm surprised that they cancelled Jessica Jones and The Punisher.

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Date: 2019-02-18 08:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] frelling-tralk.livejournal.com
Same, I think that everyone was expecting the entire lineup to be cancelled once they cancelled Daredevil :(

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Date: 2019-02-18 07:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bm-shipper.livejournal.com
A lot of people think that all the "Marvel Cancellations" have something to do with Disney's new streaming service... I personally think it's getting out of hand with all these streaming services... I mean, soon you will need like 200 bucks a month just to be able to "see everything"... It makes it definitely harder for people to be able to watch everything they want legally...

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Date: 2019-02-18 09:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] frelling-tralk.livejournal.com
I know what you mean, most people are definitely of the attitude that they’re happy with just Netflix, and maybe Amazon Prime and Hulu, but otherwise they will just go back to illegally d/l shows if they became harder to access.

For example I read that Netflix’s deal with the CW might be ending soon because the shows will be going to WarnerBrothers new platform instead https://www.syfy.com/syfywire/arrowverse-could-go-to-warner-media-service-once-netflix-deal-expires But really most people who sign up to Warner Media will likely already be fans of those shows and subscribing for that reason, so they’re not going to increase their audience by doing things that way. It was Netflix who helped them reach out to everyone, you only have to look at shows like Riverdale and You to see what a difference that sort of exposure makes. Breaking Bad is another example of a show that became huge because of Netflix, and yet it seems in future years that type of easy accessibility is going to be lost as networks will just keep their shows on their own streaming services to keep them exclusive

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Date: 2019-02-18 07:44 pm (UTC)
vanillalime: (Default)
From: [personal profile] vanillalime
I watched Birdbox back on New Year's Day, and really enjoyed it as well, especially John Malkovich. The only real annoyance for me was that I thought Sandra Bullock was too old to be playing the pregnant woman, but whatever, it's Hollywood, I get it. However, I never read the book and had no idea that they had made all those changes! That's all very interesting, but I think I might like what they did in the movie better? Especially the ending with the blind people. Yikes. O_O (Even though people intentionally blinding themselves totally makes sense.)

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Date: 2019-02-18 09:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] frelling-tralk.livejournal.com
I was kind of thrown by Sandra’s casting at first as well, from what I remember she was a young college student in the book actually. But it did end up working for me in the film, I just figured that she was meant to be in her early 40’s and playing younger than her real age, and ultimately it is nice to see it the other way around for once with a female character actually being aged up and having a romance with a much younger man!

I liked the film version too, but for me the book was definitely much much scarier, at one point I was having nightmares while I was reading it lol and waking up in a panic about the curtains being slightly open :P It’s probably a lot easier to picture it and get lost in the story when you’re reading about people having to operate in the dark though. The ending in the book is fairly similar to the film still where she meets the community and realises that Rick is blind, but then she freaks out after that when she sees people with scars where their eyes should be and realises that they’ve deliberately blinded themselves, and Rick then reassures her that they are a safe place and don’t do that any more. They did it for protection when they were still settling, but by the time Malorie gets there they are completely safe and closed off from the creatures

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Date: 2019-02-18 08:34 pm (UTC)
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Date: 2019-02-18 08:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rogueslayer452.livejournal.com
I'm not surprised since this was kinda expected, but it's still disappointing nonetheless. I just hate that this happened, whether it's because of the competition between Netflix and Disney+ or just the situation with more and more streaming services popping up competing against each other creating problems of ownership and whatnot.

It seems like a no-brainer if they want goodwill and a big launch for expanding Hulu internationally

It makes sense. I mean,Marvel's Runaways has been doing well on Hulu, and if they can get Jessica Jones and the rest of them on Hulu as well, it can definitely do well for their business. Plus, Disney partially owns Hulu too, right? So it wouldn't have to completely dumb down the shows for a more "family friendly" approach like it would be on Disney+. I don't know, I don't want to get my hopes up but at the same time, with all the talk surrounding it, I want to be hopeful because how all of this has been handled by Netflix over the last several months has been such a clusterfuck that these shows deserve better. I think everyone knows that they deserved better, especially knowing that Daredevil was already planning their fourth season when they were cancelled. So, yeah.

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Date: 2019-02-19 01:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] frelling-tralk.livejournal.com
I'm not surprised since this was kinda expected, but it's still disappointing nonetheless.

Same :(

And yeah I wasn’t all that hopeful at first because it seemed unlikely that anyone else could pick the shows up if Netflix still owns the rights to the early seasons, but that note suggest that discussions could be ongoing, so it’s hard not to take a little hope from that. I definitely think it would really benefit Hulu now that more streaming sites are wanting to create their own shows, instead of relying on licensing other networks content. Not that the Marvel would be complete originals for them obviously, but acquiring them would still give them a real boost. The Handmaids Tale, Runaways, Veronica Mars, and maybe Castle Rock are their only originals that I can think of that have received much attention so far, so it would really benefit their catalogue to pick up Daredevil, Jessica Jones, and maybe launch a new show from Luke Cage/Iron Fist

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Date: 2019-02-18 09:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] malicat.livejournal.com
I actually read about The Punisher cancellation one week after the release of season 2,it just wasn't officially confirmed then. I think I said it before,but both shows have probably been cancelled already last year when they started with Luke Cage (I guess Daredevil was as well before season 3 started,now that I think back on it. They didn't promote it as much as at the beginning).

with Netflix not even having the decency to wait for JJ’s third season to even air first

I wouldn't really call it not having the decency? I dunno,they probably figured that everyone saw where this was heading and that JJ wouldn't be the only Marvel show left so they just announced it all in one big swoop now instead of getting people's hopes up?

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Date: 2019-02-19 01:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] frelling-tralk.livejournal.com
I definitely noticed they didn’t bother promoting Daredevil at all, interestingly they did seem to make a bit more effort with The Punisher, but I’m not sure why when clearly it was always going to be cancelled as well however successful the second season was. Maybe that was just in response to people complaining about the lack of attention they gave Daredevil?

And true, it just seems very cynical to me to announce the cancellation of a show before it’s even had the chance to air, I’ve been very unimpressed at how Netflix have handled the Marvel shows :/

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Date: 2019-02-19 02:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] eiffels.livejournal.com
I knew it was coming but I’m really sad that Netflix cancelled all of their Defenders shows. Especially JJ as it was my favorite. I heard that they will still air season three though so let’s hope that happens.

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Date: 2019-02-19 08:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] frelling-tralk.livejournal.com
Jessica Jones should be airing soon is my understanding, it’s already filmed and ready to air I think, but it is really messy that Netflix decided to cancel *all* of the shows. I can only hope that another streaming service will be able to come to some arrangement with Netflix so that they can still produce more seasons :/

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Date: 2019-02-19 07:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mazephoenix.livejournal.com
WTF? I still miss Luke Cage after its brilliant second season..and now this. And Daredevil..

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Date: 2019-02-19 08:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] frelling-tralk.livejournal.com
It’s crazy to me that they decided to cancel them all, admittedly I’m not an expect on how business works, but it would have made sense to me to at least let Daredevil have the fourth season that everyone was expecting first. Even if they wanted to cancel most of their Marvel line-up eventually, it wouldn’t have hurt them to at least give some of the shows a heads up/confirmed final season, that way they at least wouldn’t end on cliffhangers with the expectation of more episodes. That’s more of a network strategy, Netflix always used to be the exact opposite of that when it came to wanting a story to play out to its conclusion

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Date: 2019-02-21 11:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] snogged.livejournal.com
My husband and I loved the first season of JJ. We never got around to watching season 2 though. I heard a lot of mixed reviews.

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Date: 2019-02-21 01:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] frelling-tralk.livejournal.com
I haven’t seen the second season either, it did seem like it got very negative reviews though, so it will be interesting to see what the response is to the third season

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Date: 2019-02-23 01:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] haebin.livejournal.com
Oh, Bird Box is actually a book? Never heard of it before.
The movie was pretty intense. And so shocking when this guy was actually 'insane' and did the things he did.
Didn't expect it at all.

It was a really, really good movie. The first one I've watched after getting a Netflix account. :D

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Date: 2019-02-23 02:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] frelling-tralk.livejournal.com
It is, it was first published back in 2014 :) And yes, I was really impressed at how they managed to bring it to screen, I wouldn’t have thought it would be easy to show something like that when most of the book was about Malorie having to stumble along blindfolded, but they did a great job