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Doctor Who legend Sylvester McCoy says only a MAN can play the Time Lord

Obviously there's been a backlash against his statements in fandom, but can I be super-unpopular and admit that I'm not sure how I feel about a female Doctor either? Not that I'm agreeing with Sylvester McCoy reasoning though, "If they changed it to be politically correct then it would ruin the dynamics between the doctor and the assistant” doesn't even make sense as an argument when the dynamic between the Doctor and his Companions changes all the time? It's hardly an established dynamic that shouldn't be touched, they all relate to one another differently depending on differing individual personalities?

But anyway, it seems like the popular thing these days in fandom is to root for a female Doctor, and I'm just not sure how I feel about it. The canon suggests that Time Lords have some control over their changes, so why would the Doctor suddenly choose to regenerate as a woman when he has kept a male identity through 12 regenerations, and seems to have always identified as male? I mean I'm not entirely opposed to a female Doctor by any means, but I guess that's why it's a little bit of a sticking point for me at the moment. The argument seems to go that the Doctor is a Time Lord and can easily choose to regenerate as female without it being a big deal, except that he hasn't through 12 regenerations so far, nor have other Time Lord's like River and Romana, so clearly Time Lord's still must have some basic concept of gender and whether they identify as male or female?

Obviously the intro of Missy has changed things by opening up Time Lord society dealing with gender identity differently, but that still all seems a bit vague to me at the moment when this is the first time that we know of (I think?) that a Time Lord has chosen to change their sex, and we don't yet know if the Master had any particular reason for switching. I guess that I'm just stuck on, whatever regeneration they go through, it's always seemed like Time Lord's still keep the same basic core personality in the past, so wouldn't the Doctor (and the Master too I guess) continue thinking of themselves as male? I feel like the lone voice in fandom when it comes to this debate, because it always seems to get painted as only someone really old-fashioned and set in their ways could not want a female Doctor. And Idk, there's definitely some interesting casting choices out there that I could see myself enjoying as the Doctor, but at the same time it does feel to me like it would be kind of a simplistic message if the show did go with "oh we're hired a biological female to play the Doctor, that means that the character is suddenly a woman now and thinks of herself that way". I mean I assume anyway that part of wanting an actress to play the role of the Doctor would include that incarnation of the Doctor starting to identify as female?

I'm certainly not opposed in any way to changing the gender of established characters for reboots, I'm just not sure how to feel about it when it comes to a character from an ongoing television series. I'm a bit of a hypocrite I guess though lol as I have been enjoying the portrayal of Missy as the Master so much that they could probably make a female Doctor work for me just as easily with the right casting, but still is there anyone else out there who also feels a bit unsure with how a female Doctor would work when he's always been portrayed as male? (The Master choosing the female form for this latest regeneration just doesn't cancel out to me the way that it's always been shown to us as working in the past for the Doctor)
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Date: 2015-08-02 07:15 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] next_to_normal
Curious how you feel about a non-white Doctor? You could make the same argument that the Doctor identifies as/prefers to be white, since all his iterations have been so far.

I have mixed feelings. It's one of the most beloved and coveted roles in Britain and in sci-fi, so it might be nice for someone non-white and/or female to get a chance at it, but they certainly don't HAVE to simply for fairness or equality's sake. And I can see the in-story characterization suggesting that, after 12 regenerations, the Doctor clearly identifies as male (even though that's been dictated by casting decisions that simply excluded females by default and not any actual story considerations).

But I think the reason the demand for a female Doctor has gotten so strong is that no one associated with the show has given a GOOD reason why not, and the reasons Moffat et al give are disingenuous and insulting. "We're just casting the very best PERSON for the job AND THAT PERSON JUST HAPPENS TO BE ANOTHER WHITE DUDE." Really??? And that's something you hear ALL THE TIME in film/TV casting and it's infuriating.

If all they are truly looking for is someone captivating and "carved out of solid star", then surely they'd WANT to expand their search to include as many great actors as possible, regardless of race or gender. Clearly they want credit for openmindedness while not actually making any effort toward diversifying.

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Date: 2015-08-02 07:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] frelling-tralk.livejournal.com
Eh I'm not opposed to a non-white Doctor at all, although I suppose that's true that you could apply my argument to that. Gender just seems so innate to me I guess that it puzzles me when fandom talks like the Doctor could just become a woman by switching forms, whereas it wouldn't be a big deal to me if he say changed his outward appearance to black and still otherwise remained the Doctor

even though that's been dictated by casting decisions that simply excluded females by default and not any actual story considerations

That's a fair point, although I'd argue that they could still have chosen to portray other Time Lord's as switching more readily between gender's as an option for Time Lord society, instead Romana for example was quite definite on being a "Time Lady", just as River always stuck with the female form

I do agree that it's frustrating that white and male is so often the default choice, but in this particular case it wouldn't entirely work for me as I suppose that I'm fixating on it being an ongoing storyline with an established male character, if they ever rebooted DW and started off a completely new version then I would be all for a female Doctor

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