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I tried the season 2 premiere of Agents Of Shield, and honestly I just couldn't get into it. If there's a way to (legally?) stream the first season then I might give it another shot, I think that it was just too confusing jumping right into season 2
Hmm I really liked Gotham's aesthetic and the noir aspect of the show, but the pilot did feel a bit rushed with all of the characters that we were introduced too, it might have worked better to make it a two hour premiere. And so far it feels like tonally it's all over the place. The parts with Gordon and Bullock felt more like a serious crime drama, as well as production aiming for dark and gritty, but then the dialogue and the acting had a tendency to get really campy with the comic book villains and nods to them.
Also I don't like the casting for Alfred at all :( Angry Cockney yelling at Bruce just isn't how I picture his character. And I don't get why he's opposed to Bruce seeing a psychiatrist, surely that's the first person to call when a kids parents have been shot to death in front of him? He feels like a British caricature at the moment quite honestly, like they're trying a bit too hard to have him say bloody every other sentence meh. Maybe I'm stuck on Michael Caine's interpretation, but I just picture Alfred as more of a distinguished older gentleman than the portrayal in Gotham. Ben McKenzie is my favourite part of the show so far (love him!), and I like Selena, Fish Mooney, and the Penguin...
I've seen most people saying that they liked the second episode more, but I think that I prefer the pilot myself, the villains in the second episode just felt a bit too cartoony Idk. I know that it's based on a comic book, but still I need it to be played as more real if I'm going to be taking the moments with Jim Gordon's character seriously. I'm going to give it five or six more episodes to grab me anyway, it's a show that I really want to like
And super-cute Peter Capaldi interview talking about Doctor Who and what a massive fan he used to be! Someone from the BBC made fun of him for writing a "very sad letter" in his attempts to take over the DW fanclub when he was younger lol, and he also talks about how they tried to instruct him on how to operate the Tardis when he first got the part, and he had to tell them "I know how to work this. You don't have to tell me, I know" He's sooo adorable in the clips when he gets embarrassed, I think that I may be starting to develop a crush *g*
(And I spoke too soon about LJ's icon issue being fixed for me, my comments are showing up with only my default icon again now)
Hmm I really liked Gotham's aesthetic and the noir aspect of the show, but the pilot did feel a bit rushed with all of the characters that we were introduced too, it might have worked better to make it a two hour premiere. And so far it feels like tonally it's all over the place. The parts with Gordon and Bullock felt more like a serious crime drama, as well as production aiming for dark and gritty, but then the dialogue and the acting had a tendency to get really campy with the comic book villains and nods to them.
Also I don't like the casting for Alfred at all :( Angry Cockney yelling at Bruce just isn't how I picture his character. And I don't get why he's opposed to Bruce seeing a psychiatrist, surely that's the first person to call when a kids parents have been shot to death in front of him? He feels like a British caricature at the moment quite honestly, like they're trying a bit too hard to have him say bloody every other sentence meh. Maybe I'm stuck on Michael Caine's interpretation, but I just picture Alfred as more of a distinguished older gentleman than the portrayal in Gotham. Ben McKenzie is my favourite part of the show so far (love him!), and I like Selena, Fish Mooney, and the Penguin...
I've seen most people saying that they liked the second episode more, but I think that I prefer the pilot myself, the villains in the second episode just felt a bit too cartoony Idk. I know that it's based on a comic book, but still I need it to be played as more real if I'm going to be taking the moments with Jim Gordon's character seriously. I'm going to give it five or six more episodes to grab me anyway, it's a show that I really want to like
And super-cute Peter Capaldi interview talking about Doctor Who and what a massive fan he used to be! Someone from the BBC made fun of him for writing a "very sad letter" in his attempts to take over the DW fanclub when he was younger lol, and he also talks about how they tried to instruct him on how to operate the Tardis when he first got the part, and he had to tell them "I know how to work this. You don't have to tell me, I know" He's sooo adorable in the clips when he gets embarrassed, I think that I may be starting to develop a crush *g*
The Graham Norton Show - S16x01 2/2 Denzel Washington, Gemma Arterton, Peter Capaldi and George Ezra from Tom Collins on Vimeo.
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Date: 2014-10-01 05:47 pm (UTC)I bought the premiere on itunes for $2 so my husband and I could watch it together.
I liked it well enough, but with Ward looking repentant, I eat that sort of thing up with a spoon. I also like Fitz a lot and his messed up brain is compelling to me.
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Date: 2014-10-01 05:58 pm (UTC)I liked it well enough, but with Ward looking repentant, I eat that sort of thing up with a spoon. I also like Fitz a lot and his messed up brain is compelling to me.
I think that it was just too hard for me to connect to those character moments without the background from season 1
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Date: 2014-10-01 07:27 pm (UTC)Also I'm enjoying the campy villains in Gotham tbh. It's fun and stands out from your average crime drama.
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Date: 2014-10-01 07:55 pm (UTC)And heh I love when Graham comments on fandom things, even if he's just making fun of fanart or fanfic summaries, it's still always hilarious *g*
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Date: 2014-10-01 07:43 pm (UTC)Gabrielle
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Date: 2014-10-01 08:23 pm (UTC)Let me know if Agents of SHIELD is any good.
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Date: 2014-10-01 08:26 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2014-10-01 08:36 pm (UTC)It keeps changing to default icon in my LJ too
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Date: 2014-10-01 09:24 pm (UTC)Otherwise does 4OD have it?
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Date: 2014-10-01 09:25 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2014-10-01 11:37 pm (UTC)The icon thing is really getting irritating now. I don't seem to have a problem in my own journal, but everywhere else I have to edit my comment.
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Date: 2014-10-02 01:08 am (UTC)And my icon keeps switching back to default in my own LJ as well, you'd think that they could have sorted it by now
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Date: 2014-10-02 05:50 am (UTC)It's my go to show this season and it keeps getting better.
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Date: 2014-10-02 12:00 pm (UTC)Is it around the midway point that it starts improving then, or later than that?
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Date: 2014-10-02 12:39 pm (UTC)She goes into a little bit of detail about what's being skipped and explains her choices so I recommend clicking the link but basically it consists of Episode 1, "Pilot", Episode 6, "F.Z.Z.T.", Episode 10, "The Bridge", Episode 11, "The Magical Place", Episode 13, "T.R.A.C.K.S.",
Episode 14, "T.A.H.I.T.I.", Episode 15, "Yes Men", and Episode 16 Onwards are the episodes that take place after Captain America Winter Soldier.
In addition to her list I recommend episode 7, "The Hub." I find it to be important for later characterization, and to understand the feelings and choices of characters towards the end of the series. IMO it's important in a pretty major Jossian way. Especially when considering characterization that has taken place so far this season.
Honestly, I own the DVDs and regularly rewatch all the episodes and I think a lot of people were being way too hard on the show, especially considering how long it always takes the Whedons to grab you and tear out your heart strings. So if you have the patience I do recommend not skipping anything but understand that the other episodes, so far, seem to be throwaway episodes that only exist because the universe was destined to change in a major way after episode 16 and they had to wait on someone else's timeline before they could dig down into the trenches and tell the stories they really wanted to tell, but you never know what's going to end up being majorly important later on in the show. Episodes that were created to be filler because Cap 3 was pushed back a few weeks may end up being the key to season 2.
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Date: 2014-10-02 01:12 pm (UTC)Honestly, I own the DVDs and regularly rewatch all the episodes and I think a lot of people were being way too hard on the show, especially considering how long it always takes the Whedons to grab you and tear out your heart strings.
I know what you mean, I feel like that about early Buffy when people just dismiss the entire first season and advise people to skip it all. Yeah the episodes maybe weren't stand-outs, but the character work was already pretty strong and most of the episodes are still fun to watch IMO
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Date: 2014-10-05 03:44 pm (UTC)(no subject)
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Date: 2014-10-07 09:20 pm (UTC)It's adorable that a fan got to be the doctor. That must be surreal for him! LOL, bet that kid kicks himself for not getting that picture.
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Date: 2014-10-07 09:46 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2014-10-09 06:55 pm (UTC)And Alfred in Gotham is vile. Can't stand him. He's a cockney stereotype gone mad.
I really like the look of Gotham. Some scenes reminded me of Blade Runner and I almost felt like I was sat in that neon lit diner with Gordon and Bullock. In general though I was a bit under whelmed by the whole thing. I think they'd hyped it up too much. The Riddler actually stood out for me the most and he was only in it for a minute if that. Thought he was quite cute :/. Actor playing Penguin was good to and it's probably one of the best performances I've seen by Jada Pinkett. I'm disappointed that the creators have stated quite categorically that we will NEVER see Batman. I think that's being a bit harsh. Of course I don't expect him to turn up in episode 5 of season 2 - I know the shows not about that, but at least we could get a glimpse of him right at the end of the shows run maybe.
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Date: 2014-10-09 08:17 pm (UTC)And yeah, I guess they want to reinvent the character of Alfred a little and bring their own take to it, but he just feels like too much of an East-end thug wannabe to be an accurate portrayal of the character. I don't want an Alfred that's going to be all, 'What the bloody hell are you doing, Master Wayne' lol. I'm not that familiar with the comics, but I'm sure that Alfred is supposed to be a stabilising presence in Bruce's life, not flipping out on him and unable to keep his cool? And I want to like Gotham because I really like the atmosphere of it and the production design, it just feels to me like they keep overstepping from fun campiness to cartoonishly bad and they need to find the line between that, especially if they're going to play the detective story straight and aim for gritty realism there
I agree about Penguin and The Riddler being among the most interesting characters so far