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I tried the season 2 premiere of Agents Of Shield, and honestly I just couldn't get into it. If there's a way to (legally?) stream the first season then I might give it another shot, I think that it was just too confusing jumping right into season 2


Hmm I really liked Gotham's aesthetic and the noir aspect of the show, but the pilot did feel a bit rushed with all of the characters that we were introduced too, it might have worked better to make it a two hour premiere. And so far it feels like tonally it's all over the place. The parts with Gordon and Bullock felt more like a serious crime drama, as well as production aiming for dark and gritty, but then the dialogue and the acting had a tendency to get really campy with the comic book villains and nods to them.

Also I don't like the casting for Alfred at all :( Angry Cockney yelling at Bruce just isn't how I picture his character. And I don't get why he's opposed to Bruce seeing a psychiatrist, surely that's the first person to call when a kids parents have been shot to death in front of him? He feels like a British caricature at the moment quite honestly, like they're trying a bit too hard to have him say bloody every other sentence meh. Maybe I'm stuck on Michael Caine's interpretation, but I just picture Alfred as more of a distinguished older gentleman than the portrayal in Gotham. Ben McKenzie is my favourite part of the show so far (love him!), and I like Selena, Fish Mooney, and the Penguin...

I've seen most people saying that they liked the second episode more, but I think that I prefer the pilot myself, the villains in the second episode just felt a bit too cartoony Idk. I know that it's based on a comic book, but still I need it to be played as more real if I'm going to be taking the moments with Jim Gordon's character seriously. I'm going to give it five or six more episodes to grab me anyway, it's a show that I really want to like




And super-cute Peter Capaldi interview talking about Doctor Who and what a massive fan he used to be! Someone from the BBC made fun of him for writing a "very sad letter" in his attempts to take over the DW fanclub when he was younger lol, and he also talks about how they tried to instruct him on how to operate the Tardis when he first got the part, and he had to tell them "I know how to work this. You don't have to tell me, I know" He's sooo adorable in the clips when he gets embarrassed, I think that I may be starting to develop a crush *g*

The Graham Norton Show - S16x01 2/2 Denzel Washington, Gemma Arterton, Peter Capaldi and George Ezra from Tom Collins on Vimeo.






(And I spoke too soon about LJ's icon issue being fixed for me, my comments are showing up with only my default icon again now)

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Date: 2014-10-02 05:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ladypeyton.livejournal.com
Just be prepared for SHIELD to grow extremely slowly and to look nothing like the first episode of this season. The first couple of episodes were fun but they were put into a holding pattern by Marvel in order to wait for Winter Soldier and the changes the movie would produce in the show's mythology. But there was a complete sea change as soon as Cap 3 aired and SHIELD really took off.

It's my go to show this season and it keeps getting better.
Edited Date: 2014-10-02 05:50 am (UTC)

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Date: 2014-10-02 12:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] frelling-tralk.livejournal.com
Heh I'm used to Joss's shows starting slowly, Buffy, Angel, and Dollhouse all stumbled in their early episods, and arguably Firefly (I know that a lot of people consider the entire run to be perfect) takes a few episodes to get going as well

Is it around the midway point that it starts improving then, or later than that?

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Date: 2014-10-02 12:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ladypeyton.livejournal.com
Charlie Jane Anders at i09 made a list of important episodes that you'd need to watch in order to catch up, if you didn't want to have to see the whole 1st season before being able to understand season 2. It's here if you are interested. (dang I've gotten lazy with my HTML. I had to look up how to make a link)

She goes into a little bit of detail about what's being skipped and explains her choices so I recommend clicking the link but basically it consists of Episode 1, "Pilot", Episode 6, "F.Z.Z.T.", Episode 10, "The Bridge", Episode 11, "The Magical Place", Episode 13, "T.R.A.C.K.S.",
Episode 14, "T.A.H.I.T.I.", Episode 15, "Yes Men", and Episode 16 Onwards are the episodes that take place after Captain America Winter Soldier.

In addition to her list I recommend episode 7, "The Hub." I find it to be important for later characterization, and to understand the feelings and choices of characters towards the end of the series. IMO it's important in a pretty major Jossian way. Especially when considering characterization that has taken place so far this season.

Honestly, I own the DVDs and regularly rewatch all the episodes and I think a lot of people were being way too hard on the show, especially considering how long it always takes the Whedons to grab you and tear out your heart strings. So if you have the patience I do recommend not skipping anything but understand that the other episodes, so far, seem to be throwaway episodes that only exist because the universe was destined to change in a major way after episode 16 and they had to wait on someone else's timeline before they could dig down into the trenches and tell the stories they really wanted to tell, but you never know what's going to end up being majorly important later on in the show. Episodes that were created to be filler because Cap 3 was pushed back a few weeks may end up being the key to season 2.
Edited Date: 2014-10-02 12:41 pm (UTC)

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Date: 2014-10-02 01:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] frelling-tralk.livejournal.com
That's really helpful, thank you! I'll see how the pilot grabs me, if the show really struggles with holding my interest then I'll just stick to the recommended episodes, otherwise I'll try and make it through the entire season


Honestly, I own the DVDs and regularly rewatch all the episodes and I think a lot of people were being way too hard on the show, especially considering how long it always takes the Whedons to grab you and tear out your heart strings.

I know what you mean, I feel like that about early Buffy when people just dismiss the entire first season and advise people to skip it all. Yeah the episodes maybe weren't stand-outs, but the character work was already pretty strong and most of the episodes are still fun to watch IMO

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