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The Hunger Games I really liked! I always feel weird for feeling this, but actually I think though that the hunger games themselves are the least interesting part for me lol. I loved reading (or watching) about their society amd the politics and all the build-up to the games, but the games themselves sometimes kept my attention and sometimes not. Honestly I think they would have been been more interesting to me if there had been a lot more focus on Katniss having to take lives and be really bloodthirsty, and how much the experience of being the one victor would change her and not really feel like a victory at all. Instead there was never all that much focus on the magnitude of taking a life, it was more about surviving against the elements I felt? It was a well-put together film though that really compliments the books, I loved all the little touches they added like actually showing the rioting in Distract 11 and making President Snow a bigger presence. For once I may have actually liked the film more than the book! Peeta still didn't do much for me though tbh in the books or the film, I was always more into Gale and Katniss. I don't have any major ship though, I cared more about Katniss's connections with Haymich and Cinna then any love interest in the books, just if I had to throw my hat into the ring it would be for Gale/Katniss.

My favourite fan video for the film!:



The Cabin In The Woods was an interesting idea I guess and I liked all of the meta commentary, but I'm not that into slasher films and ultimately a lot of that part of the film bored me and I was impatient to get back to the lab. Yeah they were making fun of the horror movie cliches, but we were still watching the cliches at the same time which wasn't really my thing. If that even makes sense lol. Idk maybe it was aimed more at people who watch a ton of slasher movies and would appreciate the satire of them more and all of the in jokes? Also I know it wasn't supposed to be pure horror obviously, but none of it it really scared me much and I'm the kind of wimp that can very easily be left terrified watching a scary movie. But then I found the same thing with Buffy, it wanted to combine action, horror, and comedy, but it never once scared me in the way that shows like the x-files or Supernatural have done, horror is something that Joss has never managed to pull off for me for some reason. Going back to the 90's, Scream was a film that I thought had a much better balance of scares and tongue-in-cheek humour, plus getting me to care about Sydney's character (I still need to watch Scream 4 at some point). I've never been much into films like The Evil Dead where I'm supposed to care about a bunch of teeangers stuck in a cabin in the woods and making stupid decisions, so maybe The Cabin In The Woods was a bit of a non-starter for me :P


The Iron Lady wasn't exactly what I had expected. The trailer is all clips from her life and there's no indication that most of the film is about Margaret Thatcher as an old lady with dementia, so why not be honest and advertise it that way? Because they knew that wouldn't sell? Meryl Streep was certainly excellent, but the film itself felt very poorly done. I think it would have worked better if they had opened with Margaret Thatcher as an old lady talking to Dennis and flashing back, then used the entirety of the film to tell the story of her life, and only then return to her as an old lady in the closing moments. Instead you couldn't get involved in the characters or the story at all because the flashbacks mostly felt so random and there was no real context being given for a lot of it. And don't get my wrong, I've no problem with Margaret Thatcher's policies being criticisized, but it felt like the movie was trying to send a message about her as a woman which made me a little uncomfortable? There was the scene of her children running over her car calling out 'don't leave us, Mummy' (would a male politition's film have had a similarly manipulative shot?), her husband complaining about her neglecting her family, and then the final message which seemed to be that she sacrificed personal happiness by being so obsessed with her career. Now again I would have had no problem if the film had criticised her in terms of her policies, but it was hard to even get much out of those flashbacks because we kept returning to the lonely old lady in the present wondering why her son doesn't visit her. It was just kind of a weird message I got from it, I don't know if it's just me?


I'm taking a break from my Breaking Bad rewatch for the moment to catch up on some films and make the most out of my netflix subscription for the month, but I am planning to start season 3 soon. And after I've finished with my Breaking Bad rewatch some tv on netflix I'm torn between trying is White Collar, Heroes, Lost, Prison Break, or 24. Any recommendations? I'm leaning toward White Collar at the moment just because the other shows seem like really big time commitments lol, but we'll see. Actually the show I would really like to check out next is The Shield, it looks seriously amazing from what I've seen of it on the Breaking Bad DVD trailers, but of course that one isn't available on UK netflix grr
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Date: 2013-04-23 02:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ladyoneill.livejournal.com
White Collar and Heroes are definitely shorter than the others (all worth watching, though). I love White Collar--just the right mix of fun and serious, and seriously hot guys and a het pairing that most fans actually love. As I'm sure you've heard, Heroes season 1 was fantastic and it lost its way after that. I enjoyed it, but it did not hold up well. On the other hand, once LOST made the decision to end after season 5 (around season 3) it found its way again after kind of getting muddled in season 2-3 (season 1 rocked).

Date: 2013-04-23 02:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] frelling-tralk.livejournal.com

Heh yes I guess that I would just watch the first series of Heroes as it doesn't seem like anyone has anything good to say about it after that. Lost and Heroes always feel like a craze I missed out on as it seems like nearly everyone is familiar with at least one of them when they were hugely popular, so they've always been shows I've thought about checking out at some point. There's just sooo much tv out there these days it's hard to keep up with it all!
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Date: 2013-04-23 07:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] falafel-musings.livejournal.com
I would really like to check out next is The Shield, it looks seriously amazing from what I've seen of it on the Breaking Bad DVD trailers, but of course that one isn't available on UK netflix grr

I'm interested in The Shield too. Let me know what you think of it if you get around to watching it. Of the other shows, I wouldn't recommend Lost. Well, I was a huge Lost fan in the early seasons then it made me more bitter than any TV show I've ever experienced. 24 and Heroes are engaging at first and then their concepts wear thin.

The best 'substitute Breaking Bad' shows I'd recommend are The Sopranos and Dexter, since they share similar themes of a dangerous criminal disguised an ordinary American man. I finished The Sopranos just before I started BB. I've only just started watching Dexter.

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Date: 2013-04-23 10:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] frelling-tralk.livejournal.com
I've seen most of the first three seasons of The Sopranos when it was airing in c4, but I definitely need to catch up with the complete series at some point!

And Dexter is a show I'm curious about, but my flist has had such a negative response to the last few seasons that it's put me off a bit :P One serial killer show I definitely want to try sometime though is Hannibal
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Date: 2013-04-24 06:08 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] falafel-musings.livejournal.com
Yeah, I've been warned that Dexter goes downhill and that S6 was simply terrible. I've only watched S1 and S2 so far but they were great and well worth the watch. I'm told S4 is the best. Each season of Dexter is a self-contained story. So I may just skip some of the later seasons. I'm kinda curious how they will end things this year though.

I found Sopranos even better from S4 onwards. You should definitely catch up sometime.

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Date: 2013-04-24 12:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] frelling-tralk.livejournal.com
I've always planned too, it was never a show I deliberately dropped. I can't even remember why I stopped watching, I suppose mostly because it was something I was watching when I was younger and more of a casual tv watcher, so I just drifted away from it over the years

And Dexter is on Netflix as well, so maybe I will add those early seasons to my to-watch list :)

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Date: 2013-04-24 05:35 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] yourlibrarian
I would ditto stopping after S1 of Heroes. I enjoy WC but it's mostly fluffy fun. It might be a good palate cleanser in between some other shows. I dropped out of Lost after a few seasons.

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Date: 2013-04-24 05:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] frelling-tralk.livejournal.com
Hmm I don't know whether to try Lost or not as it seems so geared around its mysteries as part of the complete show that it might be a bit pointless to just pick it up for a few seasons if it's all downhill after that, but supposedly season 1 of Heroes is quite self-contained so that could still be worth watching for just the one season I suppose

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Date: 2013-04-29 03:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] daybreak777.livejournal.com
Go White Collar! Fun and easy. I have to say I stopped watching all of these series after a while.

Heroes - Season 1 is intriguing. And then things go downhill. Very downhill.

White Collar - I watched two seasons and for some reason I stopped. The plot got repetitive?

The Shield - I didn't watch it all as it was airing. Only watched the first two seasons. Then watched season 3. It got really hard to watch after that. I have tags on 'the shield' when you are ready to watch it. I rec the first 3 seasons, but after that, eh. It's a really, really rough show.

Lost - Where to begin. I started with it innocently. But then I had to see it to the end. It really goes off the rails in season 3. But . . . this one while it gets weird and kind of bad, it's hard to just stop with it, you know?

Prison Break - Should have been a one-season show too! I watched two seasons of it as it aired. Because how can one prison break take three seasons? But the first season was good and Wentworth was cute. :-)

Never watched 24. I don't know why. Kiefer doesn't do much for me, I suppose.

Let us know which one you pick!

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Date: 2013-04-29 10:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] frelling-tralk.livejournal.com
Hee yeah everyone says the same about Lost and Heroes! And I thought that White Collar sounded like a fun premise, but I can also see how it would get old after a few seasons. I felt the same when I watched Leverage, I really liked the characters but I just can't get all that invested in case of the week shows, so hmm maybe White Collar isn't such a good idea after all *g*
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Date: 2013-04-29 01:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] daybreak777.livejournal.com
Your icon!

This comment was the last thing before I went to bed so of course, I dreamed about these shows somewhat. And Once Upon A Time. :-) But I remember thinking, she might like Oz! Just looking at the shows you were considering watching. But I can't quite recommend Oz. It's a really heavy show with little relief even though I watched the entire series in like two weeks.

But you've already seen it! I'm curious to you thoughts on it. I recommend you watch The Wire ASAP. If you've seen it, rewatch season 1. It's that good, really. Or watch The West Wing! Or get the show in my other "let's play lions" icon, Jeckyll. It's only six eps, as British shows tend to be, but I think you'd particularly would like it.
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Date: 2013-04-29 11:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] frelling-tralk.livejournal.com
I've seen both Oz and The Wire! :D The West Wing I haven't seen, I know it gets a lot of praise, but I've always been a bit put off trying it just because I'm not that into American politics

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Date: 2013-04-29 11:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] daybreak777.livejournal.com
I'm not that into politics, either! So I really avoided the show while it aired and for a long while after. And while it is about politics, it's also about people trying to make change and the acting is so fine. It has a few weaknesses but it's the kind of show you feel good after watching and not because it's fun and easy, but because it's important. Like The Wire.

Or you can watch Jeckyll which is dark but not as dark as it starts out to be. Or! If you like British shows, Prime Suspect! Which is very, very dark. It starts out with Helen Mirren in 1988 and ends in 2007, I think. She is so amazing. I thought I'd be bored but it's riveting TV.

Trust me! Hee!

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Date: 2013-04-29 11:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] frelling-tralk.livejournal.com
Hee okay, thanks for all the recs! :)

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Date: 2013-04-29 04:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] daybreak777.livejournal.com
On a separate note, what a lovely fan vid!

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Date: 2013-04-29 10:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] frelling-tralk.livejournal.com
It's my favourite so far for summing up the film :)

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Date: 2013-05-04 09:40 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] daybreak777.livejournal.com
As if I haven't commented on this thread enough but:

I really wish the HG movies had been a bit more bloody. And the cast had been actual teens, though I was okay with the casting. Except for Rue. Cute little girl did nothing for me. Why? So we get more of the horror of what children were forced to do. It wasn't just a game of Survivor out there.

I think they passed on the blood because they wanted the PG-13 rating. I forget it sometimes but it is a teen series. But I think they should have went R for the violence.

As for the books, I always got the feeling the author was protecting Katniss from making an actual offensive kill. It was always in self-defense, defending Rue, or a mercy killing. Did being a victor change Katniss? I think the war changed her but she still seemed herself after both games.

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Date: 2013-05-04 10:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] frelling-tralk.livejournal.com
Lol I thought it was just me with Rue, I never really cared *that much* about her death in the books or the film and it seemed like most people were in floods of tears over it! Maybe I cared a little more in the film as I liked the way they tied it in to the rioting in her district, but the whole thing just felt a little too manipulative and besides it's not like we ever got to know her all that well. I was a lot more upset over the deaths in the later books like Cinna because it felt so much more shocking that they would just kill a main character like that. Rue was always the cute little girl way out of her depth and marked for death, so how shocked and invested could you really be?

And yeah I got that feeling at times too, but it seemed like a cop-out if you're going to establish a world where children have to kill for their own survival and then have your protagonist mostly just defending herself from attacks and still winning the games. I would have expected her to kill at least one person outright and have to deal with her feelings after that

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Date: 2013-05-04 10:36 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] daybreak777.livejournal.com
The only part of the books that made me tear up were about District 11. When they sent the bread. Just the act of what that meant for them. And later on when she visited on the tour. Oh, District 11.

Rue . . . I don't know. I don't feel we knew Rue all that well so she was sort of token sacrificial lamb. Really just a stand-in for Prim. Katniss actually says this. That she cares about Rue because she reminds her of Prim.

Total violence cop-out. You know what? You've inspired me to work on my HG fic today! (That and waking up with a terrible sore throat, thus canceling my evening plans.) I want to make it better and it's nice to know there is one person out there who might actually get it.

I don't dislike the HG world, just think there is more about it I'd like to know about.

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Date: 2013-05-04 10:51 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] frelling-tralk.livejournal.com
Awesome, I'll look forward to reading that :D I should probably start reading THG fanfic in general as I would love to read more about that world. I'm just not really in the fandom so I never know which fic and authors are worth reading, and well I hate going in blind for stories with interesting summaries as I've never had much luck with that *g*

I always feel hugely in the minority actually because Mockingjay is actually one of my favourite books and it seems like most fans really hated it and found it rushed? Whereas I thought the coda was a bit weird and a blatant attempt at a fan-serving ending, but most of the book I really enjoyed and that's the one movie (or two movies I think they're making from it?) that I'm really excited to see with the rebellion against the Capital. If I'm totally honest I wasn't that excited for Catching Fire at the time because, like I said, the hunger games were never my favourite part of the books. It was still an interesting idea to involve all the victors that time and the author did ultimately do a good job with it, but definitely the ideas in Mockingjay interested me more when it felt like things started moving a bit and real change was going to happen

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Date: 2013-05-04 11:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] daybreak777.livejournal.com
The first book is okay. I watched the movie first so I was totally spoiled but it was fine.

The second book felt a bit of a retread of the first.

The third could have been two books! I do feel the author handled writing the two games better. She seemed more comfortable writing about the arena. She was less good about handling the details of the revolution. I wanted to know more. What happened with District 13? Who led after Snow was killed? And yeah, that was so sad and incomplete about Cinna. So I felt the author left a lot of threads loose in that book but maybe they'll be able to fill some in in the two movies.

That's what I think of the series, generally. A lot of good world-building and ideas. For me personally, I would have wanted a little more detail on plot resolution and a bit more time spent with other characters. Still, as a writer myself, sometimes you write the story as it comes to you and you don't always have the answers to all those details yourself!

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Date: 2013-05-04 11:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] frelling-tralk.livejournal.com
Yeah that was kind of how I felt when I heard about Catching Fire, it was like do we really need to see Katniss in another hunger games (yeah okay it is the title of the trilogy, but still lol), so maybe that's part of why I was so pleasantly surprised when Mockingjay was all about District 13 working to defeat to Capital and it felt like something really different. A lot of reviews on amazon just really seemed to hate the final book which surprised me, although I do agree about wishing the book spend a little more time on the aftermath, so I'm pleased there will two movies. If only it won't be such a long wait for them both *g*
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Date: 2013-05-04 07:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] apeygirl.livejournal.com
Fully agree on Hunger Games. I thought the film actually captured the book and improved on it at times. I was sometimes afraid they'd amp up the romance and was happy to see it downplayed. I also liked the glimpses into Snow and the inner workings of the games. I'm curious to see how they do Cathing Fire as that book is kind of WTF at times for me (just as far as suspension of disbelief). It can't hurt, tossing Philip Seymour Hoffman into the mix (I adore him!).

I like horror and anything that plays with Tropes (hence my love for Community... before they shitcanned Dan Harmon) so Cabin was right up my alley. I don't think it has much mass appeal, but I think it should get and definitely deserves a good cult following.

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Date: 2013-05-04 10:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] frelling-tralk.livejournal.com
They're keeping the arena for Catching Fire pretty quiet so far so they must be planning something big to surprise us with, it hasn't been in any of the trailers

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Date: 2013-05-04 10:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] apeygirl.livejournal.com
I hope they pull it off. But I have to say their casting has boosted my confidence in the production. Hoffman aside, Amanda Plummer as Wiress? Genius! I've always said that woman should get more work.

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Date: 2013-05-04 10:20 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] frelling-tralk.livejournal.com
Oh and I watched the pilot for Community recently when it was free on iTunes. I really liked it and was planning to catch up at some point, I take it I should avoid the latest seasons? *g* And yeah I thought that Cabin In The Woods had an interesting idea behind it and I was more interested once the characters escaped and found out everything that was going on, it was mostly the horror movie cliches in the cabin itself that didn't interest me much. It was probably a film I went into with too high expectations though knowing that it was a Joss film and many people had really responded to it

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Date: 2013-05-04 10:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] apeygirl.livejournal.com
The thing is I might be too harsh on the latest season of Community. The network did what they did and these writers who aren't Dan Harmon are trying their... best? See, I can't even say that because the main reason the network canned Harmon (aside from the Chevy Chase issues) was that he always fought for his "vision" and rarely compromised. The first three seasons are all Harmon's baby. It's only this fourth (ongoing) that has the newbies. And they are trying, but they don't have his passion.

So they've just pretty much given fanservice. I'm not saying that has no value as I love the characters and appreciate the new showrunners are trying to please and sometimes they still give moments of brilliance. But I miss Dan Harmon and how he didn't worry about fan reaction and just gave us the crazy workings of this world he created.

That being said, WATCH THIS SHOW. I've watched most episodes three and four times and still find something fresh in each. It's very well-crafted and meticulous and treats its audience like they have a brain.

Even this (final?) season is worth watching. Not as much as the first three seasons, but it's still good at times.

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Date: 2013-05-04 10:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] frelling-tralk.livejournal.com
When I have time I'm definitely going to grab the rest of the first season on iTunes, I enjoyed the characters in the pilot a lot, especially the guy I think his name was Abed?

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Date: 2013-05-04 11:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] apeygirl.livejournal.com
If you like Abed, then you are in for a treat. You will LOVE Abed.

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Date: 2013-05-05 12:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] frelling-tralk.livejournal.com
Awesome :D