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But I did copy and paste this bit because I thought it was worth repeating:


I am tired of hearing that the internet fans aren't representative of general fandom. Like with Smallville apparently it's only the ugly on-line fans who hate Lana. It's 2004, practically everyone in their teens and early 20s are on-line, and that's Smallvilles main audience. When I first came on-line a few years back I didn't know what words like lol meant, and neither did some other people, so we were gradually learning about internet speak. But think back over the past year or so, how many people are new to the internet and don't recognize what :) or LMAO mean? You hardly ever hear questions like that any more.

Pretty much all Smallville viewers will have access to the computer. Same with Buffy. Internet fandom is not some seperate beast from general television audiences, so the PTB need to stop dismissing the opinions of those wacky internet fans.

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Date: 2004-08-15 05:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lexslave.livejournal.com
hee hee. you bitch!

i think "exteme bitchiness" should be the next reality show, or olympic event...

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Date: 2004-08-15 05:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] frelling-tralk.livejournal.com
You're just saying that because you want to be a contender!

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Date: 2004-08-15 05:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lexslave.livejournal.com
dude, i would beat all them other bitches to the ground! BWAH/GRR...! hee.

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Date: 2004-08-15 05:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kwerkee.livejournal.com
Oh word. It would be a different case if it were catered to the 80-RIP age group. This show/network was set up for the younglings.

The Good - there are intelligent younglings.

The Bad - there are you-r-juz-jellus-coz-she-iz-pretty younglings.

The Ugly - Of the latter, one of them ain't so young, but with a mentality that could underperform another youngling.

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Date: 2004-08-15 06:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] serenitystarre.livejournal.com
Amen, baby. It's way past the beginning and well into the net-connected generations.

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Date: 2004-08-15 07:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] frelling-tralk.livejournal.com
I don't know anyone who isn't on-line. And if you can't afford your own computer there's always work and library access.

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Date: 2004-08-15 06:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/_rogue_slayer_/
Hey Frelling, it's 2004. At least where I am. ;)

And I'd agree that the 'internet fandom' could be the biggest asset to a network/production company. I mean, how many dvd box sets are sold on amazon.com every year? If I didn't have the net, I probably would never know about all the conventions that I'm able to attend. Those things are big money makers(ok, conventions more so for actors, but still good publicity for shows). They owe a lot to the 'net fandoms' and they should start realizing that.

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Date: 2004-08-15 07:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] frelling-tralk.livejournal.com
Now that reminds me of the Angel episode where Drusilla says the moon talked to her and told her to come into the 20th century.

Angel: It's the 21st century, Dru

Dru: Ooh. I'm still lagging.

Just the way she says that never fails to crack me up.

Guess I'll edit the right date in lol.

And it's not even about owing internet fans. I just don't get why I am always hearing that TPTB think the internet audience is separate from their main audience. Because chances are with shows like Buffy and Smallville a huge majority of the audience is on-line. So yes you totally should be using the internet to gage fan opinions, instead of dismissing us as just the net fans, not the general audience.

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Date: 2004-08-15 08:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] opalescence.livejournal.com
I absolutely agree with you! And I really thought that so much of it was all over (or at least easy to avoid), and then the fandom_wank thing (which I didn't even known existed until this latest Jerusalem kerfluffle). I really take offense to the things he said...always have...and it riled me up. It riled me up to the point of responding earlier today when I just should have shut up.

::hugs::
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Date: 2004-08-15 08:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] opalescence.livejournal.com
See, I didn't know that was their purpose. I figured it was fan wanking...making up stuff about your fandom. I will definitely avoid them now.

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Date: 2004-08-15 08:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] frelling-tralk.livejournal.com
It's linking to posts where people get a little too into their fandom. And laughing at the wank in fandom.

Miss Windy did write a lj post a while back about the benefits of fandom wank for policing fandom, and preventing us all from getting too crazy...

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Date: 2004-08-15 08:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] frelling-tralk.livejournal.com
*hugs back* I was on edge as well and said some things I shouldn't have. I'm glad you spoke up and let me know that what I was saying bothered you. Otherwise there would have remained hurt feelings on both sides and we would never have got to sort things out.

And I'm a member of fandom wank actually, although too shy to post. I've found it's best to ignore a fandom wank entry when you're directly involved in the fandom being wanked *g* Cause generally they will make fun of everyone involved in the fandom.

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Date: 2004-08-15 10:29 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] radioreverie.livejournal.com
I think in general the problem though is that they're just not concerned with fans, period. What they're trying to say, I think, is that fans tend to have passionate and slightly different opinions about a show than your average viewer who tunes into Smallville (or whatever show) because they're bored or out of habit. Fans are a niche group. Who cares what we think?


Actually that's more depressing.

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Date: 2004-08-15 10:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] frelling-tralk.livejournal.com
I'm sure most casual fans flicking channels don't mind Lana, but if they were actual fans of the show who watched every week than IMO a majority of those people would dislike Lana.

See from what A&M say I think they're not just about casual fans, they do want Smallville to appeal to Superman fans and for people to geuinely enjoy watching the show and call themselves fans and buy thr DVDs. They want to appeal to that section of the audience, they just seem to have blinders on when it comes to internet responses being most of the the actual fans of the show, giving their opinions. Internet fans are not the minority, not any more.

I get the impression that the Smallville crew do honestly believe that the Lana hate is just an internet phenomenon and is not that big a deal. It baffles me when they imply that there's hard-core Lana fans watching Smallville, they're just not on-line.

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Date: 2004-08-16 01:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jadedsilver.livejournal.com
Word, yo. Seriously, it's the freakin' 21st century, AlMiles. Get with the program. *rolls eyes*

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Date: 2004-08-16 04:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] frelling-tralk.livejournal.com
Yep. We are an excellent resource for fan opinion. Use us more!

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Date: 2004-08-17 04:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] oboros.livejournal.com
how many people are new to the internet and don't recognize what :) or LMAO mean? You hardly ever hear questions like that any more

This made me smile. While I've been online for a long time, I am new to message boards and journals. I remember the first time seeing the word 'manip' and it took me a little while to figure out that that was. So... what does OTP mean? I know it's a slash thing. I just can't figure it out.

PS: Spellcheck does not like: LMAO, online, manip or OTP. hmmmm they need to upgrade their checker.

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Date: 2004-08-17 12:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] frelling-tralk.livejournal.com
OTP is your One True Pairing that you ship.