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I've taken a break from my X-Files rewatch to do some streaming on Amazon Prime instead, I've been feeling like I've really not been getting enough use out of it considering the cost of it. (This is why I don't have Netflix lol, I always just end up stressing myself out over am I watching enough to make use of my subscription!) I've just finished the first season of The 100 now

So far my favourite characters would probably be Bellamy, Raven, and Abby. Octavia was one of my early favourites as well, but then she seemed to fade out somewhat in the second half of the year, I ended up getting more into Raven's character instead. Oh and umm the leader of the grounders whose name I've forgotten now, she was another fav of mine that seemed pretty interesting. Least favourite would definitely be Jasper, he was all right at first, but then I found him very annoying when he got really full of himself and was pushing Monty away. And for all the screentime and focus he got as a main lead, Finn didn't do much for me one way or the other quite honestly. The actor didn't seem very charismatic, especially compared to the actor playing Bellamy, so I was surprised at how much the show kept pushing Finn as a focus

I was also surprised that Kelly Hu's character disappeared after the pilot had billed her as a regular, does anyone know the reason for that?

I didn't really get into the Finn and Clark relationship, it seemed a bit forced with how heavily they were pushing it from the beginning. Also it really changed my view of Finn when we found out that he was still involved with Raven when he went to Earth, even though he gave off the vibe of being free and single from the moment he got to Earth wtf, yet somehow the show wanted to portray him sympathetically when Raven turns up and he's put in an awkward position?? He pretty clearly WAS cheating on Raven with an unsuspecting Clarke, as when Raven turned up they were clearly still together and there was no indication that they had split up or had discussed not being exclusive, but the show never seemed to want to actually portray him as leading both girls on, even though I don't know what else you would call it? Yeah he didn't know Raven was coming to Earth, but he sure didn't waste any time on finding women to hit on from the moment he landed urgh.

And I wasn't really sure what to make of Octavia and Lincolm, I wanted to like them more than I did as the actors did have good chemistry, but it just seemed very underdeveloped to me? I didn't understand why Octavia was sooo convinced that the poison affecting her as well would be what would cause him to break, what reason did she have to think that he was THAT dedicated to her already when IMO it wasn't even really that clear at the time that he did save her. I mean yeah he picked her up and seemed to have a soft spot for her, but then he chained her up in a cave while she was freaking out, I didn't see much evidence for Octavia's conviction that he simply couldn't let her get hurt? Obviously she was right at the end, but it still all seemed a bit rushed to me, the writers could have spend more time on what drew them to one another in the first place

I found myself caring the most about Bellamy and Octivia's sibling bond actually when it come to the relationships on the show, I'm always here for those ~us against the world~ kind of sibling dynamics and the flashbacks with the two of them were very sweet. (Although Octivia's existence does raise the question of why her parents would have had another kid when they knew it would mean raising her in secret under floorboards for her entire childhood?)

And finally I was disappointed that they killed Wells off as early as he did after he seemed to be set up as one of the main characters in the beginning, I suppose that they deliberately set it up that way for a surprising twist, but I thought they could have done more with his character. It seemed like he got really unfairly targeted because of his father being the Chancellor. Well Charlotte outright gives that as the reason for why she killed him, and even with her being a young kid, her reasoning behind it being that he reminds her of his father seemed like an exceptionally fucked-up motive to give her. And I felt like that came into it a lot with the way that Clarke treated Wells as well? I could understand her feeling sad and disappointed that her friend betrayed her trust and mistakenly confided in his father, therefore we're not friends any more, but she really seemed to have it out for Wells in a pretty harsh way which made me think that she was another person sub-consciously blaming him for his father's actions and taking it out on Wells :(


At the moment I'm not sure if I'm going to watch the second season or not. I liked that The 100 only had 13 episodes, so it was pretty quick-paced and easy to get into with some good twists, but sometimes it felt like the character moments were a bit lacking? I just never got really invested in the show tbh, so can't see it being a big fandom for me. I'll think about watching the second season when Amazon Prime puts it up, but at the moment I have no plans to go looking for it to watch right away or anything. It has put me in the mood for another post-apocalyptic show though, I'm really tempted to have a Dark Angel re-watch now!
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Date: 2015-09-18 11:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] penderies.livejournal.com
YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAS AT THE 100.

I still can't stand Jasper. Finn takes an entirely different turn in season two, and you're right about how the cheating completely ruined his character. Seriously, he was on earth a day and completely forgot about Raven. I love love love Bellamy and Octavia's relationship. They're so wonderful and that keeps up in season two. Lincoln and Octavia were a bit rushed, but I really adore them together.

I don't think anyone knows why Kelly Hu disappeared after episode one, but she never comes back.

Season one is definitely the lesser of one and two. WATCH TWO. Things go absolutely batshit and the show's best moments are in two. Most of the characters take on great moments of development and it's what really sold the show for me.

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Date: 2015-09-18 12:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] frelling-tralk.livejournal.com
Seriously, he was on earth a day and completely forgot about Raven.

It was strange to me because it came across like the writers didn't actually see him as sleazy, they wanted to portray all three people in that triangle as just inadvertently caught up in a really bad situation, but I mean it's not like he started falling for Clarke in spite of himself, he was very definitely on the prowl as soon as he got to Earth. It really made me look at him differently when we found out that he was involved with Raven, just because it came across like he never gave her a second thought or had any kind of moral dilemma over sleeping with Clarke, but the show still wanted us to see him as the good guy of the group somehow anyway? Bellamy>>>>>>>>>>Finn for me lol, it feels like the writers have a much more honest view of his character

I mean I felt the same with Jasper I guess, with Jasper it again felt like he was a favourite in the writers room and the writers really like him and want us to root for him to find his confidence etc and cheer on Monty coming to his rescue, but I just really disliked him when was bigging it up at the camp and dismissing one girl as "low-hanging fruit". He came across like he had a real attitude problem, and I never liked him after that. Monty's sweet though, I hope that he sticks around

I don't think anyone knows why Kelly Hu disappeared after episode one, but she never comes back.

Well that's too bad, I was really pleased to see her face after she had already made an impression on me as Pearl in The Vampire Diaries (but then I was partly excited about Abby because I remembered the actress from American Gothic lol). It seemed like Kelly Hu's character was being set up as Abby's friend and as a fairly important character, so it was odd for her to just vanish with no explanation.

I love love love Bellamy and Octavia's relationship. They're so wonderful and that keeps up in season two. Lincoln and Octavia were a bit rushed, but I really adore them together.

Aww I'm glad, I really like those two. And I did like Lincoln and Octavia more once they became a couple and were trying to bridge the two sides, but I felt like a lot of groundwork was skipped over before they became as close as they did.

Actually to ramble on about the Grounder's for a bit, I felt like it would be very easy to sympathise with the Grounder's if you watched a show from their PoV as they were the ones already living on Earth when these invaders set fire to their village with flares, or started building bombs to blow them up. I didn't always agree with the way that Clarke acted like they were just defending themselves and the Grounder's were the only ones in the wrong, it was especially a bit much when Clarke was lecturing Anya (just remembered her name!) on how could she take children into battle with her, even though the girl's life was only in danger because of the bomb that Clarke's side set on them!! I'd be interested if season 2 spend more time on The Grounder's and showing the audience more of their PoV, it seemed a bit one-sided at times in season 1, but then maybe I'm biased as I really liked Anya's character

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Date: 2015-09-18 12:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] penderies.livejournal.com
I'd say about 60% of season two is spent with the Grounders or in their camp. Octavia begins to learn the language and starts to bond with them, and they sort of team up. I don't want to give much away, but the Grounders are incredibly important in season two and you meet Indra, Lexa and a few others who become very important. Lincoln is a main character in season two, and there's basically a running theme of the Sky people fucking up a bunch of shit and then having to fix it. Clarke and Bellamy become the ring-leaders and Octavia and Lincoln become like the gap-bridgers, and Monty gets a bit more screentime (though not enough!) and Jasper becomes more of a pain in the butt. Also, Clarke holds her ground on Finn being a dick, which I love, and Raven definitely gets a good arc. I really think you should keep watching! :D

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Date: 2015-09-18 12:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] frelling-tralk.livejournal.com
Octavia begins to learn the language and starts to bond with them, and they sort of team up.

Oh that sounds really interesting actually, I probably will end up tuning in for it then whenever Amazon adds it

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Date: 2015-09-18 12:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/_profiterole_/
Octavia is my favefavefave! ♥ And I love her relationship with Lincoln, even if it's not always developed enough.

I also really like Clarke, more with Bellamy than with Finn (not a fan of Finn after Season 2), but mostly with Lexa (you haven't met her yet, but maybe you've heard of her through fandom osmosis).

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Date: 2015-09-18 12:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] frelling-tralk.livejournal.com
I really loved Octavia in the first few episodes, she and Bellamy were my immediate favs, but then I felt like she became less prominent as the series went on, like the writers weren't treating her so much as one of the mains? I don't know if that makes sense, but that was the vibe I got.

I also really like Clarke, more with Bellamy than with Finn

I could see Bellamy and Clarke more than Finn/Clarke I suppose as they did seem to have that whole leadership bond, but I'm not heavily invested in any ship on The 100 right now. I could have gotten a lot more into Lincoln/Octavia if they had build up the bonding under capture more gradually, but as it was I was left confused more than anything else at how quickly they became true love

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Date: 2015-09-18 12:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/_profiterole_/
I don't remember about the importance of her role at the end of Season 1, but it's definitely a major role in Season 2.

I guess there's a bit of love at first sight at play, and in dire circumstances, things can move faster? I don't know, I guess that doesn't work for everybody this way, but that can work for some people.

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Date: 2015-09-18 05:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] moongirl24.livejournal.com
I definitely think The 100 gets a lot better in season 2. After season 1 I wasn't sure what I thought about it, there was just something lacking for me, even if I couldn't say exactly what it was. I think it could be because I wasn't quite able to connect with the characters. There was no one I really loved and a lot of them I didn't even like. I agree with you that the relationship between Octavia and Bellamy is one of the most interesting relationships, it was definitely one of the things I cared most about in season 1. Most of the other relationships I didn't care much about.

Things have changed for me in season 2 - the storylines are better and I care more about the characters. I'm still not able to really care for anyone the same way I do for characters in my favorite shows, but I do find the show a lot more enjoyable now (I'm currently two episodes away from finishing season 2). I definitely recommend watching season 2 at some point :)

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Date: 2015-09-18 06:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] frelling-tralk.livejournal.com
After season 1 I wasn't sure what I thought about it, there was just something lacking for me

Hmm yeah that pretty much sums up my feelings at well, in the pilot I was pretty skeptical, but as the show went on I did find myself getting drawn in as they had some good twists and went darker than I was expecting, but at the same time I was never all that invested either. It probably was because I never got all that attached to any of the characters, more and more I'm finding that it's the characters that are the main draw for me when it comes to getting fannishly obsessed. I guess that The 100 feels like it's more interested in exploring their societies and the overall picture, rather than the individuals?

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Date: 2015-09-18 07:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] emeraldarrows.livejournal.com
I loved season one of The 100 but stopped watching about 3/4 through season two when I started falling more and more weeks behind and realized I didn't care to catch up. I doubt I'd watch it again. I liked the original premise and the characters but then they killed every character I had an interest in (Wells and my two favorites in season two among others) and focused entirely on the earth people and the adults who I didn't have any interest in (I wanted it to stay with the kids trying to figure out an abandoned earth). And I hated how the writers destroyed Jasper's character (he started out a kind of sweet nerd and then became a whining brat) and his romance for season two made me scramble for the remote everytime they went to that storyline, and I hated how Monty got shoved to the background just because Raven replaced him as the "techy" one (I really, really dislike Raven).

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Date: 2015-09-18 08:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] frelling-tralk.livejournal.com
I liked the original premise and the characters but then they killed every character I had an interest in (Wells and my two favorites in season two among others) and focused entirely on the earth people and the adults who I didn't have any interest in (I wanted it to stay with the kids trying to figure out an abandoned earth).

I don't have any particularly strong feelings about the adult part of the storyline, but I was surprised when season 1 ended on them coming to Earth, I had assumed that it would be all about the kids trying to build up their own society. I can't really comment yet on what season 2 does with reuniting them though obviously! Tbh Abby is the only adult character that I got particularly invested in so, other than seeing her with Clarke, I'm not sure what I'd be excited for with that storyline in season 2

I'm curious, who does Jasper have a romance with in season 2? He did seem like a sweet nerd at first, but I took a dislike to him after he seemed to get really full of himself

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Date: 2015-09-18 09:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] emeraldarrows.livejournal.com
Me, too. I assumed originally that the adults would either stay up in space as background characters or get killed off by the end, but then they focus a lot on them. I found Marcus Kane the most interesting of the adults but he didn't get the story arc I'd hoped for in season two. And as interested as I was in seeing Abby and Clarke interact in the eps I saw they spend very little time together (Clarke gets a whole storyline off with the Grounders instead). The adult it mostly focuses on is Jaha who I disliked the most.

*SPOILERS* The kids get taken by the Mt. Weather people and there's a teenage girl there named Maya who Jasper ends up becoming friends with and eventually a romance. She doesn't get to do much, unfortunately (I slightly hoped she'd be evil just to make her interesting), although she does seem to want to help when the other Mt. Weather people want them dead, and she ends up dead before the end of the season.
Edited Date: 2015-09-18 09:05 pm (UTC)

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Date: 2015-09-18 09:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] frelling-tralk.livejournal.com
Hmm I suspect that the writers wanted to keep the adult storyline going because they're the biggest ~names~ of the cast and add a little more kudos to the show? Maybe they wanted to avoid having a cast with solely teenagers for that reason, although really if the entire premise of your show involves 100 teenagers battling for survival then you may as well just wholeheartedly commit to it, I doubt the snobbier viewers will look any differently on the show as a whole whether they include a few older actors or not

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Date: 2015-09-18 09:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] emeraldarrows.livejournal.com
Are they? I don't know any of them (I only started watching current tv two years ago) so I didn't realize that, but that makes sense that they'd want bigger names instead of newer unknown actors. But, yeah, it's the CW which is sort of 99% teenagers so it'd just make sense to go that route.

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Date: 2015-09-19 09:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] frelling-tralk.livejournal.com
Oh I don't really watched them in anything else either, outside of the actress for Abby, I just figured that the actors for Jaha and Marcus were the bigger names because they get the 'with' and 'and' credits, rather than being listed with the rest of the main cast.

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Date: 2015-09-19 09:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] emeraldarrows.livejournal.com
Ah, okay! That makes sense.

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Date: 2015-09-18 07:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bm-shipper.livejournal.com
I actually wasn't THAT into "the 100" during season 1 and the characters I was most invested in were Octavia and Lincoln, and still are, but I also really love Marcus and I'm very interested in his journey. I was so twisted about him in Season 1, and also in parts of Season 2 but I love him so much, and while he's probably not "on" as much as the kids, I think he's one of the most interesting characters this show has... ;) But of course that's just me...

Personally it was season 2 that really made me get into this show. Like HARD. I barely ever talked about it in Season 1, but Season 2 changed all of it. During Season 1 I wasn't even sure I would be watching Season 2, but I'm glad I did, because unlike many other shows, Season 2 - I felt like - improved on SO many level and just found it's footing.

Okay, I wasn't interested in that whole "City of Light" Storyline and I'm still annoyed by it and hope it won't have too much focus in Season 3, but I can ignore that fact for everything else that was good about it :)

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Date: 2015-09-18 08:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] frelling-tralk.livejournal.com
Okay I'm drawing a blank lol, who was Marcus?

During Season 1 I wasn't even sure I would be watching Season 2

Yeah that's kinda how I felt after finishing season 1, I liked it all right, but with sooo much tv out there already that I'm really excited about and want to catch up on, I'm just not sure if I care enough to invest in more episodes of The 100 or not. To a certain extent the plots grabbed me, but I felt like in all of the writers excitement to explore ~big concepts~, the smaller character moments were a little lacking at times.

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Date: 2015-09-18 08:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bm-shipper.livejournal.com
Marcus Kane = Henry Ian Cusick

He was actually quite important in Season 1. At least I thought so.

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Date: 2015-09-18 08:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] frelling-tralk.livejournal.com
Oh whoops, yes of course! I didn't care for his character at all in the beginning, but they did do a decent job with redeeming him towards the end, although he still wasn't really a favourite of mine tbh. I thought it would have been a nice way for him to go if he had been the one to sacrifice himself at the end of season 1 actually, although obviously I can't say for sure if that would be the right call or not as I don't know what they do with him in season 2

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Date: 2015-09-18 09:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] maybe.livejournal.com
I found myself caring the most about Bellamy and Octivia's sibling bond actually when it come to the relationships on the show, I'm always here for those ~us against the world~ kind of sibling dynamics and the flashbacks with the two of them were very sweet.
YES. I am so here the Blake siblings.

I was never a fan of Finn, like ever. lol. The way the show handled that whole situation with Clarke, him, and Raven just made it worse - because he came across like a total douche to me, despite how they otherwise tried to sell it.

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Date: 2015-09-18 09:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] frelling-tralk.livejournal.com
I love your icon :)

And yeah, it was more annoying because the writers seemed to have a real blindspot when it came to portraying Finn as this stand-up guy, even though that's not what I got from his behaviour a lot of the time. It seemed like he saw himself as the victim for getting caught out by Raven, even though he was the one that decided to sleep with Clarke when he knew that Raven was waiting for him and still believed they were together

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Date: 2015-09-19 02:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mfirefly10.livejournal.com
Ugh, Finn. I really disliked Finn. I didn't like him from the start but when we found out he was still with Raven even though he'd spent every second on Earth trying to hook up with Clarke, I was just done with him. I also really loathe Murphy.

RAVEN!!! Raven is my FAVORITE! I also adore Abby and Octavia and Clarke and most of the female characters. I didn't like Bellamy much in season 1 but he really grew on me in season 2. And Lincoln's pretty great.

Relationship dynamics - I adore the friendship between Clarke and Raven. The show easily could have made them hate each other because of the Finn thing, but instead, they became friends. So awesome. I also love Clarke's complicated relationship with Abby and the Octavia-Bellamy dynamic.

I remember how shocked I was when they killed Wells. I never saw that coming, which I guess was the point, but I definitely think killing him off so soon was a mistake. I thought his character had a lot of potential and then he was just gone.

I liked season 1, especially toward the end, but season 2 is much better. Season 2 introduces a couple of really fascinating characters and gives quite a few of the main characters really strong arcs.

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Date: 2015-09-19 09:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] frelling-tralk.livejournal.com
Yeah I didn't like Finn from the start either lol, he came across as the annoying wise-cracker in the pilot when he was encouraging the other kids to stand up (and from what I remember a couple of them died because of that?), so I was pretty surprised actually when I realised that the show was going to present him as the main male lead. He just never had that kind of presence to me?

And Wells did seem like a character that they could have used more as he came across as the shows best example of a "good guy" early on, it seemed like they were trying to push Finn into that role later instead, but it didn't really work for me...

Season 2 does sound like something that I might end up checking out after all, if the characterisation is strong that year and there are some good character arcs, that's really all I need to get invested

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Date: 2015-09-19 04:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] braverys.livejournal.com
I'm glad that you liked the first season of The 100! I'm in the minority and wasn't crazy about the second one, but it was still decent.

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Date: 2015-09-19 09:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] frelling-tralk.livejournal.com
I'm curious, what did you like less about season 2? (And I don't mind spoilers)

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Date: 2015-09-19 05:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] myfriendamy.livejournal.com
hmm I watched the first season as it aired but totally lost track of it last year. It's interesting to see so many comments of support for the second season tho, maybe I'll give it a try one day.

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Date: 2015-09-19 09:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] frelling-tralk.livejournal.com
Yeah it came across as that kind of show to me too, easy enough to sit down and bing-watch, but at the same time not really a must-watch for me, so I can see myself easily losing track of it

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Date: 2015-09-19 01:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] davesmusictank.livejournal.com
The 100 is one series i have yet to watch. I am currently going through Battlestar Galactica and soon will be watching season one of Dollhouse.

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Date: 2015-09-19 01:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] frelling-tralk.livejournal.com
I've been tempted to have my own re-watch of Dollhouse when I have time, I really loved that show :)

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Date: 2015-09-19 01:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] davesmusictank.livejournal.com
I found the complete first season in a charity shop yesterday fro three quid! I am looking forward to watching it.

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Date: 2015-09-19 01:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] frelling-tralk.livejournal.com
Awesome, once you get past the first five episodes (they've stuck on a case of the week format which doesn't always work) the main plot starts getting REALLY good

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Date: 2015-09-20 06:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] malicat.livejournal.com
Season 2 is much better imo! And I can assure you,Octavia's role becomes much bigger and she honestly has the greatest arc of them all ♥
Her relationship with Lincoln was definitely rushed (I feel like they either deleted some scenes - between her helping him escape and then suddenly they have sex? o_O - or just left it out deliberately and thought the viewers would know that some time has passed or something) but I loved them right from the start because PRETTY and then in season 2 they get a really solid foundation and I know quite a few people who changed their mind about them then :)
You will probably change your opinion on Finn too...but not in a good way. He only gets worse *lol*

Oh and the Kelly Hu thing was really weird. She was one of the reasons why I even started to watch this show in the first place. I google it but there's absolutely NOTHING,not even news that she dropped out :/
Edited Date: 2015-09-20 07:01 pm (UTC)

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Date: 2015-09-21 06:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] frelling-tralk.livejournal.com
And I can assure you,Octavia's role becomes much bigger and she honestly has the greatest arc of them all ♥

Very cool, she definitely has the potential to be a favourite character for me :D And I would be interested if there were any deleted scenes on the DVDs, it did seem like the writers just decided to build up a Romeo and Juliet pairing between the two sides, but didn't want to put the time and effort into adequately setting it up. Octavia and Lincoln definitely make for a super-pretty couple though, I could see myself getting a lot more into them in future seasons, once I get past how jarring the beginning of their story was

And hmm that is weird, you'd think there would be *some* explanation at least, like smaybe the actress committed to another project and was no longer available. There must have been a change of plans if she was originally meant to be a regular cast member. Oh well