Catching up with season 3 of Hannibal!

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Episode 3 really wasn't for me I'm afraid, I felt like the director started getting way too artsy when it came to things like the close-ups of snails. I get that the cinematography has always been an important aspect of Hannibal, but it was starting to get so drawn-out that the plot was crawling to a stop at certain points! IMO episodes 2 and 3 could have been condensed down into one episode easily, then we could have got back to the rest of the cast by episode 3, rather than waiting for the fourth episode (And how great was Chilton in the fourth episode! I love that he personally got the copyright for 'Hannibal the Cannibal' lol, I'm kind of disappointed actually that in this version of the canon he's not the one tormenting imprisoned Hannibal and threatening to take away his privileges)

I thought that they could have done more with Chiyoh though, she felt like such a cipher to me, and I didn't really understand why Will was kissing her on the train, but maybe I missed something there?

I loved seeing Bedelia and Hannibal living together as a kind of warped version of how Hannibal and Clarice ended up in the novels, there were some great moments there ('it's not that kind of party'!) At first it came across to me like she was being completely coerced into being with Hannibal, but then of course it was suggested that she was choosing to be with him, that part of her was fascinated by him and seeing what he would do, while always taking safeguards for herself. I loved the resolution to that with her pretending to be high and confused, and Jack can't help but be impressed at how brilliantly she's going to play everyone!

Alana and Margo had good chemistry, although it's a shame there wasn't more of a build-up to them getting together, they really only had the one scene together before their sex scene! I do really love Margot's character though, and Mason was always fun too in his own warped way, "Well no pyjama party for you, Mr Graham" :P That pig scene was too heart-breaking and disturbing for me though, poor Margo :(

I probably shouldn't say too much about Will/Hannibal for fear of embarrassing myself as a really creepy shipper, but I can't help but find something adorable in the weirdest stuff, like Hannibal's proud smile when Will takes a bite of Cordel's flesh :blushes: And I loved that they borrowed the image from the Hannibal film and had Hannibal walking away from Mason's revenge scheme with Will in his arms :D Poor Will though when Hannibal turns himself in so that Will can never put him out of his mind :( Jack's look of disbelief said it all really!

I really enjoyed the latest scenes between Will and Bedelia in episode 10, heh when he calls her The Bride Of Frankenstein, and she points out that we've both been his bride *g* I loved the unexpected flashback to her patient when we see what really happened with him, it seemed like Hannibal deliberately send him to Bedelia to try and bring out the cruel streak that he saw in her? It's going to be more interesting to watch her scenes from seasons 1 and 2 now, she was always kept so ambiguous before that it was hard to know what to make of her, but I feel like I have a better understanding now

I was very happy to see Abigail again in episode 9 (well and in episode 2 as well of course!). It was good to get all of that background on how much she was actually working with Hannibal, in her eagerness to help Hannibal set up the crime scene, we again see someone who was not the helpless victim that she first appeared to be. I was always fond of her relationship with Hannibal, and it was pretty heart-breaking in retrospect watching those scenes when we know how it all ended

ETA Oh I don't suppose anyone has any recs for Hannigram fic or video's that they've enjoyed? I did read one awesome prison AU with Hannibal and Will in a version of HBO's Oz, and ended up getting completely sucked into it *g*




Also I've changed my LJ style completely now, I thought that it was time for a change. It will take a bit of getting used too, especially when I'm scrolling through my friendsfeed (everything looks so different!), but I'm really liking this style at the moment. I will miss my old banner though...The current banner with just my name on it makes me think that I really need to come up with a more interesting name for my LJ, but I can't think of much at the moment

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I thought that they could have done more with Chiyoh though, she felt like such a cipher to me, and I didn't really understand why Will was kissing her on the train, but maybe I missed something there?

From what I remember, she made the move to kiss him before she pushed him off the train. Perhaps it was a "in the moment" thing where there was a connection felt based from their experiences with Hannibal, but ultimately she had other motives with going to see Hannibal and didn't want Will in the way. But I do agree, I liked Chiyoh's presence but she felt kind of underused in a way. I was hoping for more of her, perhaps a little appearance after he had been incarcerated.

Alana and Margo had good chemistry, although it's a shame there wasn't more of a build-up to them getting together, they really only had the one scene together before their sex scene!

I really did want to see how they initially got together, but regardless I loved everything about their scenes for what we got. There is something very intriguing about them being together especially as partners in crime, and in general I just adore those two actresses so it was wonderful seeing them together. ♥ I know some people weren't thrilled hearing about the actor change for Mason, but everything about his character this season was sadistically twisted all the same. I did enjoy how Hannibal helped Margot and Alana and how they were the ones who killed Mason in the end. Murder girlfriends! ♥

I probably shouldn't say too much about Will/Hannibal for fear of embarrassing myself as a really creepy shipper, but I can't help but find something adorable in the weirdest stuff

I'm not an active shipper myself, but I do love seeing the little moments between them. Their relationship with each other has always been fascinating, and I like how Bryan Fuller acknowledges how personal and intimate that relationship has been while never sugarcoating how damaging and fucked up it is. Plus, I do love the nudges that other people acknowledge this as well, with "Murder Husbands" (a nice wink to the fandom) to the recent conversation between Will and Bedelia, examining that relationship a bit deeper especially considering they were both underneath the spell of Hannibal Lector. I love how everything surrounding Hannibal is very romantic, and his relationship with Will is no exception.

it seemed like Hannibal deliberately send him to Bedelia to try and bring out the cruel streak that he saw in her?

I'm assuming so. It was very interesting seeing how it all played out, in the end. Bedelia didn't necessarily kill him, but she didn't help either and we understand that cruel, possible murderous instinct within her that he probably wanted to observe for himself, seeing what would happen. Again, that conversation with Will about their differences. I'm still vaguely curious about her in general, but I do like that we got to see more of her and more of what happened with that patient, and why she remained with Hannibal for as long as she did. It makes sense that she would be with him, kind of planning and plotting for her initial escape, but at the same time observing and wanting to see what these instincts of hers meant.

I was always fond of her relationship with Hannibal, and it was pretty heart-breaking in retrospect watching those scenes when we know how it all ended

Same. It's like, I knew it was impossible considering the reality of everything, but I, like many others, were kind of wishing for that fantasy murder family vacation with Will, Hannibal and Abigail. It would make for a great alternate universe version, let me tell you.

What are your thoughts on the Red Dragon storyline, so far?

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But I do agree, I liked Chiyoh's presence but she felt kind of underused in a way. I was hoping for more of her, perhaps a little appearance after he had been incarcerated.

Yes in the end she felt like too much of a plot device IMO when we only saw her appearing to protect Hannibal, it's a shame because she seemed like an intriguing character in her own right in her first appearance

I know some people weren't thrilled hearing about the actor change for Mason, but everything about his character this season was sadistically twisted all the same. I did enjoy how Hannibal helped Margot and Alana and how they were the ones who killed Mason in the end. Murder girlfriends! ♥

I wasn't sure about Mason's change at first, but I thought that the new actor did an impressive job with the role, and I loved how the show brought in the death by eel and Hannibal helping Margo out (Hannibal being one of the only books that I actually read from the canon *g*) I always thought it was a shame that Margo's part was completely written out of the film, her relationship with Mason was such an important part of showing what a monster he was, and it was nice seeing Hannibal do the right thing by someone who had been a victim of Mason's.

Plus, I do love the nudges that other people acknowledge this as well, with "Murder Husbands" (a nice wink to the fandom) to the recent conversation between Will and Bedelia, examining that relationship a bit deeper especially considering they were both underneath the spell of Hannibal Lector.

:nods: The conversation with Will and Bedelia was a favourite of mine, and I also loved Freddie's appearance with the mention of "Murder Husbands", and her pointing out that they did run off to Europe together *g* I wish that they would use her character a little more actually, her appearances are always so fun

Bedelia didn't necessarily kill him, but she didn't help either and we understand that cruel, possible murderous instinct within her that he probably wanted to observe for himself, seeing what would happen.

I thought that Bedelia did kill the patient in the end by ramming her arm down her throat? It matched up with what she was saying to Will about feeling the urge to crush something that she perceives as vulnerable, always having to swallow that urge of course, but it's always there all the same. And that was the one time that she gave in to it. That made a lot more sense of her escaping with Hannibal, she wanted to give in to her fascination with her cruel streak, while not crossing over society's line and becoming a killer herself

I don't have that much to say about the Red Dragon arc tbh, but I am really enjoying it of course, especially the performances of Dolarhyde and Reba. I loved that first phone call with Hannibal with Dolarhyde talking of becoming "the great Red Dragon" <3 And some of the visuals have just been amazing, especially during Dolarhyde and Lector's imagined therapy moment. I haven't read the book for Red Dragon, but I did see the film a year or so ago, so I'm interested in seeing what twists of the canon Bryan Fuller is planning