Profile

frelling_tralk: (Default)
frelling_tralk

May 2020

S M T W T F S
     12
3456789
10111213141516
171819 20212223
24252627282930
31      

Custom Text

Most Popular Tags

Doctor Who legend Sylvester McCoy says only a MAN can play the Time Lord

Obviously there's been a backlash against his statements in fandom, but can I be super-unpopular and admit that I'm not sure how I feel about a female Doctor either? Not that I'm agreeing with Sylvester McCoy reasoning though, "If they changed it to be politically correct then it would ruin the dynamics between the doctor and the assistant” doesn't even make sense as an argument when the dynamic between the Doctor and his Companions changes all the time? It's hardly an established dynamic that shouldn't be touched, they all relate to one another differently depending on differing individual personalities?

But anyway, it seems like the popular thing these days in fandom is to root for a female Doctor, and I'm just not sure how I feel about it. The canon suggests that Time Lords have some control over their changes, so why would the Doctor suddenly choose to regenerate as a woman when he has kept a male identity through 12 regenerations, and seems to have always identified as male? I mean I'm not entirely opposed to a female Doctor by any means, but I guess that's why it's a little bit of a sticking point for me at the moment. The argument seems to go that the Doctor is a Time Lord and can easily choose to regenerate as female without it being a big deal, except that he hasn't through 12 regenerations so far, nor have other Time Lord's like River and Romana, so clearly Time Lord's still must have some basic concept of gender and whether they identify as male or female?

Obviously the intro of Missy has changed things by opening up Time Lord society dealing with gender identity differently, but that still all seems a bit vague to me at the moment when this is the first time that we know of (I think?) that a Time Lord has chosen to change their sex, and we don't yet know if the Master had any particular reason for switching. I guess that I'm just stuck on, whatever regeneration they go through, it's always seemed like Time Lord's still keep the same basic core personality in the past, so wouldn't the Doctor (and the Master too I guess) continue thinking of themselves as male? I feel like the lone voice in fandom when it comes to this debate, because it always seems to get painted as only someone really old-fashioned and set in their ways could not want a female Doctor. And Idk, there's definitely some interesting casting choices out there that I could see myself enjoying as the Doctor, but at the same time it does feel to me like it would be kind of a simplistic message if the show did go with "oh we're hired a biological female to play the Doctor, that means that the character is suddenly a woman now and thinks of herself that way". I mean I assume anyway that part of wanting an actress to play the role of the Doctor would include that incarnation of the Doctor starting to identify as female?

I'm certainly not opposed in any way to changing the gender of established characters for reboots, I'm just not sure how to feel about it when it comes to a character from an ongoing television series. I'm a bit of a hypocrite I guess though lol as I have been enjoying the portrayal of Missy as the Master so much that they could probably make a female Doctor work for me just as easily with the right casting, but still is there anyone else out there who also feels a bit unsure with how a female Doctor would work when he's always been portrayed as male? (The Master choosing the female form for this latest regeneration just doesn't cancel out to me the way that it's always been shown to us as working in the past for the Doctor)
Tags:

(no subject)

Date: 2015-08-02 06:33 pm (UTC)
rahirah: (Default)
From: [personal profile] rahirah
Actually there's been a previous mention of another Time Lord, the Corsair, who changed sex when they regenerated (that was in "The Doctor's Wife," IIRC.)

As far as I'm concerned, they can cast anyone of any race, ethnicity, age, or gender as the Doctor, so long as they can pull off that essential Doctorness. I think that if Time Lords can change biological sex if they want to, then their concept of gender is probably nothing like the human conception of gender, and it doesn't make sense to say that they 'think of themselves as male' or 'think of themselves as female.' Their society might recognize half a dozen 'genders,' or none.

On the other hand, I'd also be very happy if they brought back Romana or Susan or the Rani or even Jenny, so that we'd have a mostly-female-identified Time Lord around.

(no subject)

Date: 2015-08-02 07:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] frelling-tralk.livejournal.com
I do see what you're saying about Time Lord's possibly having different concepts of gender (and I stand corrected on The Doctor's Wife!), but it still seems to me that the Time Lord's do identify as male or female enough that they want their biological sex to match that. The Master becoming "Missy" seems IMO to be a pretty big aberration, rather than something that they're all clearly comfortable with doing all the time, as the other Time Lord's have all made a point of sticking with their preferred gender everytime they regenerate. That's why I'm not sure how much sense it would make within the show for the Doctor to regenerate as a woman, even with Missy setting precedence for it

I'm not all up in arms about it though I feel I should add! A lot of people who are against a female Doctor give that side of the debate a really bad name I know :P But yeah, I'm just not sure that it would work for me with how the Doctor's character has been established as having always been male. For a film franchise reboot sure, but for a character to actually switch from male to female on a tv show as part of the continuity is what I'm not sure of I guess. They pulled it off with Missy beautifully, but I'm still not at the stage of clamouring for an actress to be considered for the Doctor's next regeneration

On the other hand, I'd also be very happy if they brought back Romana or Susan or the Rani or even Jenny, so that we'd have a mostly-female-identified Time Lord around.

I agree with that :)

(no subject)

Date: 2015-08-03 01:47 am (UTC)
rahirah: (Default)
From: [personal profile] rahirah
Well, I think that we have to keep in mind that the main reason we've never had a female (or black/Indian/hispanic/whatever) Doctor before has nothing to do with Time Lord gender identity. It's that until pretty recently, it was inconceivable that anyone but a white male could be cast in such a role, and even now, it's obviously still controversial. So in a situation like that, do the writers A) say "But we know better now, and we can and should consider a wider range of actors for the part, even though it will be a break in tradition," or B) say, "Well, regardless of how crappy the reasons for it being this way are, it IS this way, so we have to keep it this way?"

Basically, when the only reason people can advance for keeping something like this the way it always has been boils down to "It's always been like this, so changing it would be weird and scary!" I'm dubious. Change IS weird and scary, but that's not a reason to avoid it, and may be a reason to embrace it.

Page Summary

Expand Cut Tags

No cut tags

Style Credit