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For someone who isn't normally crazy about comic book films or tv shows, I really enjoyed Daredevil!
The second episode was when I first fell in love with the show I think, I thought that all of the flashbacks to Matt's childhood with his father were very touching and effective. Both episodes flashing back to Matt and Fisk's childhods were among my favourites actually as I also particularly loved episode 8. That was around the time where I started racing through the episodes, I was pacing myself more at the beginning lol.
The friendship between Matt, Foggy, and Karen was so sweet, I especially loved episode ten with the flashbacks to Matt and Foggy in college together, as well as how much time the show spend on Foggy's reaction to Matt's secret and how betrayed he felt. Major aww to how they were both in tears by the end of the episode. Foggy and Karen's friendship was also very sweet, starting from episode two when he takes her drinking and tries to make her feel safer in Hell's Kitchen. It seemed like they were going for a romantic vibe there in the beginning actually, but I got the impression that Foggy dropped it after their "date" because he sensed that Karen was still into Matt? I hope there will be more of all three of them hanging out together as friends if a second season happens!
I also like Claire's character a lot, and how the show introduced her as wanting to help this masked men that she had already heard about being out there saving people, it was a shame that we hardly see any of her towards the end of the series
But, perhaps predictably, the character that I ended up loving the most was Wilson Fisk :sheepish: I found him fascinating with how lonely and tragic he seemed, while at the same time having his anger control issues and being pretty terrifying when he wanted to be! Everything about his relationships with Wesley and with Vanessa really touched me, I thought it was adorable how shy and awkward he seemed around Vanessa, how he struggled with making eye contact and spoke in such a halting way. I was dealing with a lot of conflicting emotions in the finale actually heh, on one hand I wanted to just cheer on Matt, Foggy, and Karen for taking out the bad guys and the corruption, but on the other I was really sad for Vanessa waiting in vain with her ring, I kept hoping that Fisk would find some way of still getting to her :/
And I also loved Fisk's scenes with Wesley. I thought that it was quite moving how much Wesley looked out for him and how loyal he was, it seemed like he really loved Fisk and cared about his happiness. I liked Wesley's character a lot actually, urgh I was super disappointed with his death. It didn't even make a lot of sense because when he first put the gun in the table my immediate response was that seems kind of risky, then I told myself that oh of course it must not be loaded, then turns out that he really did leave a loaded gun on the table in easy reach of Karen?!? Wesley just always seemed a LOT smarter than that to me? My heart when Fisk sees the body and holds his hand :( I was actually curious if there was any fic for those two, but Archive Of Our Own didn't seem to have all that much disappointingly...
My one nitpick is from episode two, and it's that I found it hard to understand why Matt's father would take the risk that he did in not throwing the fight, even when he seemed to know that the mobsters would very likely kill him for it and leave his recently-blinded son without a Dad?! The two of them seemed so close that I don't understand why he thought that leaving his son a large stash of cash would be preferable to actually having his father around. Although I guess there was that sense that he had very low self-esteem on how much he could actually do for his son, who was clearly well on his way to adjusting and was a lot more book-smart than his father, but even so it was really harsh to leave the kid on his own to stumble across his father's body in the middle of the night :( Then again I was also puzzled at Matt telling his father that we always get up again when we get knocked down. It seemed like he was encouraging his father not to throw the fight, as he had just overheard their conversation and knew that's what he was being pressured to do, but surely he should have understand the risk that his father would face from that kind of criminal element if he didn't follow their orders? The show did reference that later when he blamed himself for his fathers death because he wanted him to win, but I still thought it was odd when he surely knew what his father was going up against if he didn't throw the fight?
Those are my thoughts so far anyway, does anyone have any recs for music video's or fic from the show? :)
The second episode was when I first fell in love with the show I think, I thought that all of the flashbacks to Matt's childhood with his father were very touching and effective. Both episodes flashing back to Matt and Fisk's childhods were among my favourites actually as I also particularly loved episode 8. That was around the time where I started racing through the episodes, I was pacing myself more at the beginning lol.
The friendship between Matt, Foggy, and Karen was so sweet, I especially loved episode ten with the flashbacks to Matt and Foggy in college together, as well as how much time the show spend on Foggy's reaction to Matt's secret and how betrayed he felt. Major aww to how they were both in tears by the end of the episode. Foggy and Karen's friendship was also very sweet, starting from episode two when he takes her drinking and tries to make her feel safer in Hell's Kitchen. It seemed like they were going for a romantic vibe there in the beginning actually, but I got the impression that Foggy dropped it after their "date" because he sensed that Karen was still into Matt? I hope there will be more of all three of them hanging out together as friends if a second season happens!
I also like Claire's character a lot, and how the show introduced her as wanting to help this masked men that she had already heard about being out there saving people, it was a shame that we hardly see any of her towards the end of the series
But, perhaps predictably, the character that I ended up loving the most was Wilson Fisk :sheepish: I found him fascinating with how lonely and tragic he seemed, while at the same time having his anger control issues and being pretty terrifying when he wanted to be! Everything about his relationships with Wesley and with Vanessa really touched me, I thought it was adorable how shy and awkward he seemed around Vanessa, how he struggled with making eye contact and spoke in such a halting way. I was dealing with a lot of conflicting emotions in the finale actually heh, on one hand I wanted to just cheer on Matt, Foggy, and Karen for taking out the bad guys and the corruption, but on the other I was really sad for Vanessa waiting in vain with her ring, I kept hoping that Fisk would find some way of still getting to her :/
And I also loved Fisk's scenes with Wesley. I thought that it was quite moving how much Wesley looked out for him and how loyal he was, it seemed like he really loved Fisk and cared about his happiness. I liked Wesley's character a lot actually, urgh I was super disappointed with his death. It didn't even make a lot of sense because when he first put the gun in the table my immediate response was that seems kind of risky, then I told myself that oh of course it must not be loaded, then turns out that he really did leave a loaded gun on the table in easy reach of Karen?!? Wesley just always seemed a LOT smarter than that to me? My heart when Fisk sees the body and holds his hand :( I was actually curious if there was any fic for those two, but Archive Of Our Own didn't seem to have all that much disappointingly...
My one nitpick is from episode two, and it's that I found it hard to understand why Matt's father would take the risk that he did in not throwing the fight, even when he seemed to know that the mobsters would very likely kill him for it and leave his recently-blinded son without a Dad?! The two of them seemed so close that I don't understand why he thought that leaving his son a large stash of cash would be preferable to actually having his father around. Although I guess there was that sense that he had very low self-esteem on how much he could actually do for his son, who was clearly well on his way to adjusting and was a lot more book-smart than his father, but even so it was really harsh to leave the kid on his own to stumble across his father's body in the middle of the night :( Then again I was also puzzled at Matt telling his father that we always get up again when we get knocked down. It seemed like he was encouraging his father not to throw the fight, as he had just overheard their conversation and knew that's what he was being pressured to do, but surely he should have understand the risk that his father would face from that kind of criminal element if he didn't follow their orders? The show did reference that later when he blamed himself for his fathers death because he wanted him to win, but I still thought it was odd when he surely knew what his father was going up against if he didn't throw the fight?
Those are my thoughts so far anyway, does anyone have any recs for music video's or fic from the show? :)
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Date: 2015-04-21 04:57 pm (UTC)Fisk/Vanessa - she's a Machiavellian badass in training, she's legitimately in love with him, and she's at large: no way is she going to let him languish in prison for long. :)
I think Matt's dad had high hopes for surviving his breach of contract when he won the fight, since we saw he was getting ready to flee. It was still a dumb move, but I guess the idea of being an inspiration to his son was just really important to him.
I can't tell yet if I'm into fanfiction for this fandom but I would LOVE to see some nice vids, so hopefully people will start getting on that soon!
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Date: 2015-04-21 05:17 pm (UTC)Matt and Foggy's friendship was definitely one of my favourite parts of the show :)
ETA And I guess that Matt's father taking a stand was just too much of a ~guy thing~ for me to relate too lol, he was his only family member and Matt apparently spend the rest of his childhood alone in an orphanage, I just can't see any calculated risk being worth that. It seemed so selfish to me that he would be willing to risk it all for that brief moment of glory, even if he did also arrange to put some money aside for his son
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Date: 2015-04-22 01:02 am (UTC)After a second viewing (I held out for maybe a day or two after finishing the last episode), I think Jack Murdock's dumbass guy thing might also have something to do with Matt's mother, whoever she is - he was on the phone with her and sounded like he expected her to step up and take care of Matt when/if he was gone. God only knows what went wrong there, let alone why she wasn't the one raising him in the first place.
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Date: 2015-04-23 09:11 am (UTC)I think I found a delicious Wesley/Fisk/Vanessa prompt involving wine and dinner dates toward the beginning of the prompt post comments... ♥
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Date: 2015-04-21 06:41 pm (UTC)Karen/Matt/Foggy make such a great trio. Hopefully it won't put another strain on Matt's and Foggy's friendship though if they go in a Matt/Karen direction!
It sucks that they only had Rosario Dawson for 5 episodes (she was cast last and then had another film at the time they were doing DD) but I think they did the best they could there :)
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Date: 2015-04-21 07:05 pm (UTC)And I get the feeling that the show were pushing Matt/Claire more, but I did pick up on Matt/Karen hints in the final episode as well. I'm not into them as much though, it seems like that would put too much of a strain on Matt, Foggy, and Karen all being friends
And it definitely seemed like the actress for Claire wasn't available as much after the first half of the season. I was surprised to just get a reference to her in episode ten and not actually see her interaction with Foggy, that would have been interesting to see, so I did wonder if there were scheduling issues. I did like Matt/Claire as a ship, but it also felt a bit rushed to me how quickly she was saying that she loved Matt, but then I suppose that she did spend an awful lot of time with shirtless Matt :P
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Date: 2015-04-22 05:44 pm (UTC)/The friendship between Matt, Foggy, and Karen was so sweet, I especially loved episode ten with the flashbacks to Matt and Foggy in college together, as well as how much time the show spend on Foggy's reaction to Matt's secret and how betrayed he felt./ - Yesyesyes, totally! *g*
/It seemed like they were going for a romantic vibe there in the beginning actually, but I got the impression that Foggy dropped it after their "date" because he sensed that Karen was still into Matt?/ - Did they? I kind of got the impression that with all that other mess going on with Fisk it wasn't the right time for them, And then Foggy got something going with his ex. And then there was that weird, out of nowhere ending scene with Matt and Karen looking at each other and Matt offering his hand to Karen. But I probably missed something, did I?
/I also like Claire's character a lot/ - Me too! Her role kind of reminds me of the nurse in this Spider-Man fic.
And OMG totally agreed on Fisk and conflicting emotions!
/then I told myself that oh of course it must not be loaded, then turns out that he really did leave a loaded gun on the table in easy reach of Karen?!?/ - Well, he probably didn't expect for Karen to fight back, just cower in corner.
/I was actually curious if there was any fic for those two, but Archive Of Our Own didn't seem to have all that much disappointingly.../ - As I said, let's write some! Though with him being dead things are a bit complicated. Maybe something pre-series. Did we even know how Fisk and Wesley met?
/but I still thought it was odd when he surely knew what his father was going up against if he didn't throw the fight?/ - Yeah, though he was still a kid so maybe he didn't completely understand all the repercussions.
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Date: 2015-04-22 05:59 pm (UTC)Matt and Karen suddenly being pushed again in the finale did seem quite out of the blue, Matt is flirting with everyone lol. I'm more into the three of them just staying friends I think. I've said this elsewhere, but although I'm not usually a fan of cases of the week, I think it would be a good idea to have a few more legal cases for season 2. Season 1 was such a continuing story/almost mini-movie, so it would be cool if season 2 mixed it up a bit and introduced some standalone cases, that would be a good way of getting more into the team dynamics with the three of them
And yeah, the potential romance with Foggy was dropped kind of abruptly. I just assumed that Karen made things awkward for them with her suddenly asking her to touch her face the way that Matt would, but who knows what they were going for there...
And I would definitely like if they ever did flashbacks to how Wesley first met Fisk, he seemed so devoted to him and so concerned about his happiness (he was practically wearing a team Vanessa t-shirt!), so I'd be really interested on getting the background there on what made him care about Fisk so much more than your run of the mill assistant
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Date: 2015-04-22 06:12 pm (UTC)/I've actually seen more people complaining about Fisk's childhood being kind of cliche and one-note with the abusive father/ - That may be but I really loved the way the show let us discover what happened, piece by piece, with the painting, the cufflinks and the Zuppa.
/ although I'm not usually a fan of cases of the week, I think it would be a good idea to have a few more legal cases for season 2/ - Yesyes, you're right, it would be a nice solution.
And yes, I really want that flashback! You're right maybe they'll have time in season 2, with Fisk confined in his cell with only his mind for company...
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Date: 2015-04-22 07:03 pm (UTC)And that's one of my small complaints with season 1, that we didn't see enough of the three of them together, so it would be very cool if season 2 gave them a few more legal cases to work on now that they're really established as a firm
And hopefully the actor playing Wesley will be available for season 2, I would love if they did anything looking back at their relationship as season 1 did focus a fair bit on how loyal Wesley was, and the writers seemed interested in that relationship. I guess it will all depend on whether the new showrunners have the same interest in the villains though? I'm not sure if Fisk will still be involved even, I guess they may introduce a different villain for the second season now that he's been defeated, I'm not sure what their plans are
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Date: 2015-04-23 07:07 am (UTC)Well but Fisk still has to become the Kingpin, doesn't he? Like his story, he always thought he was the Samaritan when really he was the ill intent and there's still some space to have a purely villainous Fisk, I think, without pretence of high purpose to rein him in but just driven by a vengeance need. Wouldn't that be awesome to see? I got so unexpectedly fascinated by this character I don't think I want to let go of him yet. ;)
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Date: 2015-04-23 08:29 am (UTC)And true, the first season did seem to be just as much about the origins of the villain as it did the hero, so hopefully season 2 will keep that same focus