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Vince Gilligan Talks ‘Breaking Bad’ Regret, Hints at Mike’s Return in ‘Better Call Saul’
[W]hen I heard anecdotally that a lot of people were of the belief that the whole thing had been a dream, then I was kind of scratching my head because that to me as a fan of storytelling, that to me, is the antithesis of a satisfying ending. [...] It certainly doesn’t work well for me that these people I’ve invested all my care and close attention to for years on end, that nothing they’ve accomplished happened to be real: It was all some bulls— dream. [Laughs] I was like, “Are you kidding me?” Who would find that… what’s the word?… fulfilling?"
Yes! I always thought those weird theories that the critics were coming with on how it should have ended seemed like the most unsatisfying way ever of ending the show
Although Better Call Saul is set, for the most part, in the days before Walt broke bad, Gilligan admits that he and co-creator Peter Gould have been “turning over” the possibility of jumping to other points in the timeline.
"We think, by and large, this show will be a prequel, but the wonderful thing about the fractured chronology we employed on Breaking Bad for many years is the audience will not be thrown by us jumping around in time. So it’s possible that we may indeed do that, and we’ll see the past and perhaps the future."
Who is planning on watching the spin-off? Tbh I'm not all that excited for it at the moment, I may or may not watch depending on if I hear good things about it. I like Saul a lot on BB, I'm just not sure if I'd be that interested in a show centered around him :shrugs:
And my computer still seems cursed :( I've ran malwarebytes and it says there's no virus, but I still can't use a search engine without internet explorer closing down, I can't highlight and copy or paste on individual LJ entries, not can I select pics or mood (I have to use my ipad for that). Plus I can't edit my posts at TWoP. I'm wondering now if it could be an IE problem, maybe I need to update it or something...
[W]hen I heard anecdotally that a lot of people were of the belief that the whole thing had been a dream, then I was kind of scratching my head because that to me as a fan of storytelling, that to me, is the antithesis of a satisfying ending. [...] It certainly doesn’t work well for me that these people I’ve invested all my care and close attention to for years on end, that nothing they’ve accomplished happened to be real: It was all some bulls— dream. [Laughs] I was like, “Are you kidding me?” Who would find that… what’s the word?… fulfilling?"
Yes! I always thought those weird theories that the critics were coming with on how it should have ended seemed like the most unsatisfying way ever of ending the show
Although Better Call Saul is set, for the most part, in the days before Walt broke bad, Gilligan admits that he and co-creator Peter Gould have been “turning over” the possibility of jumping to other points in the timeline.
"We think, by and large, this show will be a prequel, but the wonderful thing about the fractured chronology we employed on Breaking Bad for many years is the audience will not be thrown by us jumping around in time. So it’s possible that we may indeed do that, and we’ll see the past and perhaps the future."
Who is planning on watching the spin-off? Tbh I'm not all that excited for it at the moment, I may or may not watch depending on if I hear good things about it. I like Saul a lot on BB, I'm just not sure if I'd be that interested in a show centered around him :shrugs:
And my computer still seems cursed :( I've ran malwarebytes and it says there's no virus, but I still can't use a search engine without internet explorer closing down, I can't highlight and copy or paste on individual LJ entries, not can I select pics or mood (I have to use my ipad for that). Plus I can't edit my posts at TWoP. I'm wondering now if it could be an IE problem, maybe I need to update it or something...
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Date: 2014-01-04 03:49 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2014-01-04 04:15 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2014-01-04 03:57 pm (UTC)I'll check out the prequel; I don't have high hopes, but it's the closest we'll ever get to more BrBa.
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Date: 2014-01-04 04:18 pm (UTC)And even if I don't end up watching it in full, I will probably tune in if any BB characters make an appearance
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Date: 2014-01-04 04:07 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2014-01-04 04:21 pm (UTC)How are you finding it so far?
ETA Don't read the comments though because my reply to
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Date: 2014-01-04 04:38 pm (UTC)Maybe our new house will have better high-speed internet options and we can do more streaming & watch more quickly.
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Date: 2014-01-04 07:08 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2014-01-04 07:20 pm (UTC)I've got to rec Ashes To Ashes though, I really think that it's worth watching if you enjoyed Life On Mars!
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Date: 2014-01-04 08:06 pm (UTC)The point wasn't "that nothing they’ve accomplished happened to be real" - it was that Walt's (somewhat unrealistic) victory in the last episode was actually just a figment of his imagination, that actually he froze to death in the car in New Hampshire. I think that says a LOT about Walt as a person, without negating anything that's come before, that he would envision this big "out with a bang" ending for himself that never happened.
I think it also makes a statement that's relatively consistent with the rest of the series - that he still views himself as the hero, but what he actually deserves is to die alone and never accomplish what he set out to do. It says that there is no easy way to fix all the wrongs he's committed, and that the people he loves just have to live with the consequences of his actions, even if they didn't deserve it.
Don't get me wrong - I love the ending as is. However, I do think the dream theory was pretty fascinating. Breaking Bad, as a whole, and this final string of episodes in particular, has not been the kind of show that pays off with a happy ending - so the idea that the happy ending is all in Walt's head kind of makes a good deal of sense. I can see why some people would think it's MORE logical and in keeping with the series' themes than what actually happened.
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Date: 2014-01-04 08:35 pm (UTC)And I agree with what you're saying that the show could have ended on a quite poignant and interesting note if the finale had made you believe that Walt was getting some closure and heroically rescuing Jesse and taking out the Nazi's, only to have it all end on it being a dream or fantasy of his. I guess that I had a knee-jerk reaction to the critics saying that could have been a good ending because I saw the actual ending as so perfect that it was hard for me to visualise it going any other way and being as satisfying
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Date: 2014-01-04 08:51 pm (UTC)I mean, really, it's just the things that Walt accomplished in that episode that would turn out not to have been real... and since a lot of people wanted him to suffer or be punished, Walt basically getting everything he wanted before he died is probably "the antithesis of a satisfying ending" for those people.
It's really weird that Vince wouldn't get that?
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Date: 2014-01-04 09:04 pm (UTC)The link isn't that much more detailed btw regarding the finale, it's those comments from Vince that I copied here, with just a quick intro from the interviewer about Vince being confounded by theories on it all being a dream
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Date: 2014-01-06 12:11 am (UTC)That's actually what I loved most about it. Not that Walt 'wins' because he's the bad guy, but I think it's more satisfying that he does get what he wanted in the end. That always seemed more realistic to me than Version 542162 of the Crime Doesn't Pay trope.
I don't think I'll watch Saul unless it's completely different from BrBa. I like him as a side but I don't know how much I'd like his act as the main course.
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Date: 2014-01-06 12:41 am (UTC)And honestly I was relieved that BB didn't end with some horribly depressing moral ending, it gave me chills at the end when 'Baby Blue' started playing as Walt fondles the equipment in the meth lab, and then you see him peacefully pass away before the police get there
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Date: 2014-01-06 07:52 pm (UTC)Well, I guess depressing is in the eye of the beholder.
But yeah, I liked that Walt 'won' 'cause that happens in real life. Crime does pay, the bad guys sometimes get away and good doesn't win. I get a little tired of the Santa Claus-esque suggestions in movies that try to say otherwise.
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Date: 2014-01-06 10:56 pm (UTC)And yeah some people argued that it was all too convenient in the finale, but Walt had always been so good at outsmarting everyone that I didn't really find it implausible that he came up with the plans that he did and managed to carry them off with a little bit of luck, it was like that for all of the series pretty much and it made sense that he would have been determined to come up with some way of still getting the money to his family. It would have felt a bit cheesy and unsatisfying to me if it had just ended on Hank arresting Walt and Jesse and them paying for their crimes
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Date: 2014-01-04 08:27 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2014-01-04 08:38 pm (UTC)ETA Maybe I should have just got a Mac! I was torn about getting one because everyone says that they're better and 'they just work', but I ended up going with a PC again because of all the programmes that I could more easily transfer over from my last computer.
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Date: 2014-01-04 08:48 pm (UTC)As for Mac's, I wouldn't say that they don't have problems, they just have completely different problems :D
(although, admittedly, less problems than PCs have)
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Date: 2014-01-04 08:51 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2014-01-05 07:02 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2014-01-05 12:36 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2014-01-05 01:58 pm (UTC)Also, the actor who plays Mike was on Community this week, as a criminology professor, or as the show insisted, "teacher". (I love the characters on that show, but they clearly know very little about, well, colleges.)
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Date: 2014-01-05 05:07 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2014-01-05 03:35 pm (UTC)I don't know what Windows you have, but have you tried using Microsoft Security Essentials? If not, can you get a download of Chrome or Firefox setup files somewhere?
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Date: 2014-01-05 05:02 pm (UTC)And yeah I'm not expecting it to be the equal of BB in any way, I do wonder if maybe the show will come in for a harder time though if people are coming to it with expectations of another television masterpiece
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Date: 2014-01-05 11:29 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2014-01-05 11:30 pm (UTC)(no subject)
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