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I've just wasted way too much time on http://actualteenadultteen.tumblr.com/ lol, they put together a picture of an actor playing 16 or 17 alongside a picture of what they actually looked like when they were were that age. It's so weird to see Hollywood's example of what passes for teenage in tv and film










I always thought Sarah and Alyson passed okay actually (well Sarah was only 2 or 3 years older than the part anyway), but Nicky and Charisma were ridiculously obvious when they were both close to 30 and still playing 16/17 wtf. And Joss did hire an actual teenager for the part of Kendra unusually, but Bianca Lawson is 31 in the second pic and still playing a teenager...

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[infinitewhale.livejournal.com]

They can be good. The Breaking Bad commentaries are worth the price of admission. I tend to like David Fincher's commentaries, too.

The Buffy ones... I liked Normal Again and that might be about it. The thing about Bargaining is I have the same problem I have with Joss's S6 and S7 comments. They have this "aw, we know it sucked, guys!" vibe to them and it pisses me off. They obviously didn't think they sucked when they were writing them.

Not to get off on a rant about it, but that's someone's work, you know? That's someone who got up at 4am and did the make-up, built the set, whatever on a miniscule WB/UPN budget. And you OK'd it. You OK'd the actress who played Veruca and you OK'd the edit so don't make fun of the vocals after the fact. It's just completely and utterly unprofessional and it makes me wonder if this is the kind of stuff they want memorialized on a DVD, just what it might have been like to work with them.

[red-satin-doll.livejournal.com]

I didn't listen to the NA again commentary track (don't have the dvd's so haven't heard any) but I read a transcript of them and was not impressed. Maybe I'd need to hear them. But this is why I prefer to judge the work on it's own merits, not based on what the creators have to say.

I've not heard Fincher's commentaries but I assume they would be interesting. Anthony Minghella's commentary for Cold Mountain is another example of one that might be better than the actual movie.

It's just completely and utterly unprofessional

Oh exactly so, He thinks he's being funny but he's not. People worked their ASSES off for that show.

but then again he was recently quoted blaming another writer on the comics for being responsible for the meta references, and another one for Mecha-Dawn, etc - dude, you put your name on the cover as executive producer? the buck stops with you. Period.

I assume that part of Joss' commentaries re: S6-7 is a response to a large portion of the mainstream audience who think those seasons suck and Bangel was the greatest thing and it's too bad the Scoobies had to change (wah wah wah)? I'm guessing of course.

But there's also that contradiction - he's said don't diss Marti, but by dissing those seasons isn't he doing just that on some level?

[infinitewhale.livejournal.com]

I like when technical stuff gets discussed, which is why I like NA. Plus there's the SMG!love so a little bias? Indeed!

If you ever do get into Breaking Bad, those commentaries are gold. /pimp I need to make a 'cut to the fucking' icon but I can't find something of proper context.

but then again he was recently quoted blaming another writer on the comics for being responsible for the meta references, and another one for Mecha-Dawn, etc - dude, you put your name on the cover as executive producer? the buck stops with you. Period.

Well, he blamed Meltzer for turning it into fanfic, but to be fair I'm pretty sure that was tongue-in-cheek. Of course that's Joss's MO, to say something as a joke while meaning it, so it's out there, but he can't be blamed for it. If his latest quote regarding the abortion storyline doesn't clue people in to his hypocritical antics, nothing ever will.

he's said don't diss Marti, but by dissing those seasons isn't he doing just that on some level?

Yes, it's funny isn't it? Sueworld linked to a article that basically did the same thing awhile ago.

[red-satin-doll.livejournal.com]

I like when technical stuff gets discussed, which is why I like NA. Plus there's the SMG!love so a little bias? Indeed!

Maybe I was in a cranky mood when I read that transcript? (Transcripts of conversations are rarely readable anyway without hearing the voices.) because technical stuff and Sarah-love should be right up my alley.

I don't know how old you are but when we were kids, my brothers and I devoured a making-of magazine for a movie we weren't old enough to see yet: Blade Runner. It was really in-depth about casting, sets, costumes, etc; far better than most of today's making-of featurettes. (The best I've ever seen on DVD is the Lord of the Rings deluxe packages. We couldn't even begin to get through them all when we rented it. Holy shit.)

If his latest quote regarding the abortion storyline doesn't clue people in to his hypocritical antics, nothing ever will.

What quote is this?

Sueworld linked to a article that basically did the same thing awhile ago.

And that's sad because I read his comments defending Marti on gabrielleabelle's . He should have stopped there but the man DOES NOT KNOW when or how to keep his mouth shut, or how to parse things gracefully.

[infinitewhale.livejournal.com]

I was becoming very frustrated with a lot of narratives where people either don't even say the word abortion or have a very facile reason for not going through with it

"We're gonna do this because it needs to be done." And we bought it in a sort of, you know, in a "Buffy" way -- "Oh no, I'm not pregnant, I'm a robot." But that wasn't to shy away from it.

So full of shit.

[red-satin-doll.livejournal.com]

WHAT THE CREEPING BLUE FUCK, JOSS? SRSLY? Dude loves to hear himself talk but doesn't seem to actually listen to what he's saying because that. makes. NO. sense. *gets stabby*

One of the main arguments re: abortion is the notion of a woman's right to autonomy over her own body (and note that she goes to two MEN, who get to voice the opposite sides of the issue. No woman gets a voice here.)

Joss solution? Violate Buffy's bodily autonomy re: the robot. Joss and DH once again demonstrate their discomfort with women's bodies at a really fundamental level.

[infinitewhale.livejournal.com]

Just the latest in a long line of stupid things he's said over the years. Of course when you're trying to legitimize an obvious publicity stunt (ditto Batsu) you're bound to look foolish.

[red-satin-doll.livejournal.com]

Of course when you're trying to legitimize an obvious publicity stunt (ditto Batsu) you're bound to look foolish.

You mean there's times when he doesn't?