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Season 2 of SPN is one of my favourite seasons :draws hearts all around it: and In My Time Of Dying is a great start as it's so much about the family and giving me everything I want in a SPN episode. John and Dean's final talk :sniffs:, and all the emotion from Sam as he faces losing Dean and tries to connect with him through the Ouija board

9/10 Such a beautiful episode

Everybody Loves A Clown was another episode I absolutely adored. So funny and creepy awesome with the clowns, that opening teaser was just terrifying with the silent waving clown!!! They really set up a cool atmosphere with the circus, and there were lots of funny bits too with Dean teasing Sam over his fear of clowns, and then Dean getting a hard time from the circus people *g* My favourite part of this episode though was that they weren't afraid to devote so much time to the boys grieving period. JA was sooo good in this episode playing Dean as all emotionally damaged and closed-off as Sam tries to get through to him, and that final shot of Dean smashing up the impala :sniffles:

Regarding the roadhouse I was never all that keen on Ash's character to be honest, he just came across as a bit O/T and annoying to me. Ellen and Jo are cool though. Hmm I wonder how old the actress for Jo actually was back then though cause she looks like she's 16/17 which is mostly why I think the flirting with Dean comes across as more awkward than anything else. I assume she was meant to be fairly young also as she was still living at home and having the whole rebelling against Mum thing later on?

9/10

Bloodlust wasn't as good as I remembered actually :/ I found it hard to put my finger on why because it wasn't bad or anything, but I guess I just found it a bit slow-moving? Especially the first half. I did love the opening sequence with the impala though, and of course Gordan was a great character. And more emotional continuity with Dean talking to Gordan because he feels he has to keep his gameface on in front of Sammy. Hee at Dean trying to get Sam to punch him back at the end of the episode

7/10

Children shouldn't play with dead things I really liked this episode! Poor Dean and all of his issues, and Sam worrying about how he was coping :loves: It was very cool how it all tied together with the MotW and Dean's heartbreaking final confession that he knows John brought him back and "What's dead should stay dead"

And LMAO at Sam quickly changing the channel as Dean walks in, and the looks Dean gives him as he realises Sammy was watching porn "awkward". And Sam and Dean posing as grief counselors, "We've come to hug" *g*

It's a shame they couldn't get Summer Glau to play the part of the zombie though as I believe that was originally planned? The actress they went with didn't really impress me that much, and she didn't seem creepy enough for a zombie. Although maybe the make-up was partly at fault as well. I would just rather see creepy half-dead creature for zombie, as opposed to normal-looking girl who's just a little bit on the place side :shrugs: Zombies are supposed to be scarier than that!

8/10

With Simon Said I've never heard it spoken of as a huge fan favourite, but honestly I nearly always love Ben Edlund's episodes and this was no exception. I loved how it build up the suspence with the demons plans for the psychic children. They made the mind powers both creepy (lady setting herself on fire!) and funny (Dean giving up the impala *g* )

9/10

No Exit Hmm I actually liked the first half of this episode more when Jo was determined to go along on the hunt, and was bonding with Dean etc. The second half dragged a little for me in places, maybe because the serial killer spirit wasn't nearly as scary as he could have been? Also it felt like such a showcase for Jo that Sam and Dean really got sidelined, althugh there was a nice scene for Dean when he talks to Jo about his dad. I'm still wondering though how old Jo was actually meant to be if she had to sneak out of the house to go on the hunt??? It was a good episode for her otherwise though

Except that gah Ellen and Jo REALLY pissed me off in the end when they started treating Sam and Dean like dirt because of their father's actions. REALLY?!? It did make me giggle though when they were all driving along in silence and "Cold As Ice" starts playing and Ellen immediately switches it off *g*

7/10

The Usual Suspects I really loved this one! I always like episodes when they have to try and deal with the police, and the structure of this episode was just awesome with them having to give their confessions while the audience get the flashbacks on what really happened.

Some cute brotherly moments too with Dean teasing Sam and calling him Scully, or Dean getting bored and making immature noises while waiting for Sam to do his thing on the computer *g* And even with them separated most of the episode, it was awesome to see how coordinated they were while each figuring out what was going on for themselves

Even the previously sequence was great for this one. Normally I found them way too long-winded at sticking every last scene they can in there, instead of simply using it as a quick recap to catch the audience up to speed. But this one was hilarious with all the flashes back to their previous disguises *g*

And the ghost was the first to really terrify me in a while now, when she suddenly appears in that woman's house :hides:

My one complaint was that it all got a bit too meta for me at the end when they were discussing pea soup and does she look familiar to you. I like them to keep the SPN universe as more real-feeling than that, so that took me out of it a bit

9/10





And so far I'm a little underwhelmed by Ringer. Originally the premise of taking over your twin sisters life seemed a little cheesy and ridiculous anyway, but then the promotion made me hope for something quite dark and Noirish. Instead it did come off as more of a soap opera to me, it was almost like what we were really supposed to care about was seeing Sarah wearing stunning clothes and surround her character with gorgeous men wanting to sleep with her...

It could have been a pretty chilling and well-done moment when Bridget takes over her sisters life, perhaps with something like her being accidentally mistaken for her sister and seeing her realisation as she decides to go along with it. Instead it was hard to feel much real emotion in the scenes with the sisters, and the lifeswap felt really rushed and oddly-done. I thought Sarah did a good job with the individual characters, but overall Idk

I'll give it a few more episodes though
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Date: 2011-09-16 06:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/_touched/
I don't know, I'm not so sure that I agree with you regarding Ringer. I think that it has the potential to be a pretty good show, if done right. This is only the pilot episode and I feel like we need to give it a little bit more of a chance rather than just jump to conclusions that it's soap opera-ish and cheesy. I'm kind of interested in it, the ending of it when you find that her sister is still alive was quite the twist for me.

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Date: 2011-09-16 10:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] frelling-tralk.livejournal.com
That's true, I don't want to jump into dismissing the show too quickly as pilots can often be a little shaky. I guess I was building it up in my mind because the trailers were intriguing me, and then I felt a little underwhelmed by the final result? Of course it didn't help that the show has been promoted so much at this point that I felt like half the plot points they were hitting had already been given away in the trailers

Hopefully they have a strong place to go from here though

(no subject)

Date: 2011-09-16 10:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/_touched/
Yeah, I'll have to admit that the trailers giving so much away, can sort of lend itself to lessening the more intriguing aspects of the pilot and the show itself. But, from what I've read regarding the next four or five episodes, it seems that it's got the potential to become a little more interesting. Although, I have to say the boat scene could have been handled so much better. And I wasn't really a fan of the pregnancy thing, either.

So, I get the feelings of being underwhelmed by it, when it was talked up to such exaggerating heights. These are pretty much the reasons, why I sort of want to stick with it for the next few eps to see if it can live up to the potential that I see in it.

Ooh, and your icon could sort of marry my icon! y/y?! :D
Edited Date: 2011-09-16 10:49 pm (UTC)

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Date: 2011-09-17 01:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] frelling-tralk.livejournal.com
Yeah I think that pilots in general are a bit stuck introducing the premise of the show, I get the feeling in places that they just wanted to get the whole set-up of Bridget in Siobhan's life over with, so hopefully they'll be really getting into some good stuff now that that's been established

And totally! *g*

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Date: 2011-09-16 10:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jessm78.livejournal.com
Yay! Another season 2 fan. :)

I loved IMTOD as well, and I'm so glad I'm not alone in loving Everybody Loves A Clown. I like that they gave so much time to the boys trying to get through their grieving, and how they do it in different ways.

Alona (Jo) was born in 1983 if I'm remembering correctly, so she was about 23 when she first appeared as Jo in that episode. She does seem quite a bit younger than that though, which makes the flirting with Dean a bit on the awkward side to me as well.

(no subject)

Date: 2011-09-16 10:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] frelling-tralk.livejournal.com
It's funny cause I wouldn't really see her as early 20's until her season 5 episodes, and I guess she must have been about 26/27 then? She is ageing well *g*

And early season 2 is awesome for working through all the boys trauma at losing John, just as they realistically dealt with Jessica's death and had Sam talking about her all through season 1. So many other shows would have just left it as a token mention to the character lost, and then keep pushing the story along without regard to the trauma that the characterts would be suffering from

(no subject)

Date: 2011-09-17 03:07 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] auroramama
Of course, this is the CW, which has a consistent actor/character time warp. What was Clark supposed to be when Smallville started, a high school sophomore? And how old was Tom Welling then? I think Jo really was supposed to be 16 or 17 at most.

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Date: 2011-09-17 05:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] frelling-tralk.livejournal.com
I think they later backtracked Clark's age even more so that he must have been 14 and a freshman in season 1 o_0 As they obviously kept him in high school for seasons 1-4, and there's a mention of him being 17 in an early season 4 episode.

When SV first premiered he was originally spoken off as being about 15, but I tried to give them a pass and fanwank it as the Kent's ageing him down a little bit so that he could catch up on speech etc before starting school *g* They could only estimate his age after all

And Jo really did look very young to me, as well as acting a lot like a teenager who is starting to speak out against her Mum, but I assume she was supposed to be of age as she and Dean were being presented as a potential couple? But in my viewing of it she would have been 17/18 during season 2, and then about 21 for her return in season 5 when she is clearly being written and presented as more of a grown woman

(no subject)

Date: 2011-09-17 01:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cinderella81.livejournal.com
I think the first ep started a bit slow, but then again, it's the pilot so they have to set stuff up ...

And I like the idea that everyone has a secret from Bridget/Siobhan to Siobhan's husband to the step daughter ... everyone is living a double life ... It'll be interesting to see where it goes ...

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Date: 2011-09-17 01:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] frelling-tralk.livejournal.com
My problem with it was more that I thought they rushed through a lot. Especially Bridget's choice to take over her sister's life, it felt like her decision there was really rushed through. I mean yes obviously she was in danger, but it stills seems like quite a leap to take over your sisters life on the very day that she dies, and the episode didn't really make that as momentous a decision as I was expecting if that makes sense?


But I definitely have my fingers crossed that things will get good from here now that they have the premise of the show set-up and they're all good to go

(no subject)

Date: 2011-09-17 01:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cinderella81.livejournal.com
It makes sense ... you would think it take more time, more thought before you take over your 'dead' sister's life ...

Maybe if they had taken two episodes instead of one to set everything up ...

(no subject)

Date: 2011-09-17 01:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] frelling-tralk.livejournal.com
Yeah I get the feeling that they were more interested in getting the premise of the show out there and done with so that they can start playing around with Bridget in her sisters life, but I think it's a shame they didn't play it for more of an impact cause when you think about it it must be really creepy the first time you get addressed as your sisers name etc, and I wasn't really feeling that from how they were playing it. It was more like oops must check the book to find out wht appointments I'm meant to be keeping, am I really having an affair with my best friend's husband etc. Which is why it came off as more soap opera than I was hoping for

Ringer

Date: 2011-09-17 03:13 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] auroramama
I see what you mean, though I probably enjoy soap opera more than noir. But something like the Supernatural pilot (in terms of setting-things-up power) would have been better. Reading your reaction makes me wonder about their childhoods: maybe they used to play this game when they were kids. Maybe they even did it when one of them got into trouble, covering for each other, and that's why Bridget falls into it so quickly. More a reflex than a decision. Now, with the pilot the way it was, this is just fanwank. Something like the SPN pilot would have managed to get more backstory in there.

Re: Ringer

Date: 2011-09-17 05:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] frelling-tralk.livejournal.com
Sarah did talk at comic con about them later having flashbacks to their teenage years, and that could be pretty fun. Actually I might have liked the pilot more if they had used flashbacks to try and set up the sisters closeness, because as it was the few scenes we did get between them just felt a bit awkward to me.

I found it easier to buy them as two seperate characters when they weren't both in the same frame quite honstly. But then I guess it's hard to generate any real chemistry when you're playing opposite yourself lol

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