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My spec is that the tragic event is Damon turning Elena. After the way they have copped out on character deaths this year I'm not sure I buy that they will kill a regular for good. And anyway who is really big enough to have that kind of huge impact in the finale episodes? There's been hints that even the big three aren't safe, so I feel like killing and turning Elena is the most likely way of them getting a cliffhanger big enough to compete with season 1's finale and the return of Katherine getting everyone talking. Plus it makes more sense to me for that to be the big point of conflict between Damon and Stefan, rather than Damon say suggesting killing someone else to protect Elena and Stefan being horrified at that. I think that Stefan might outwardly protest, but deep down he would agree with Damon about doing anything to keep Elena safe. But killing Elena at 17 and turning her into a vampire would be a huge issue for Stefan, and could also lead into a lot of potential storylines for season 3 such as the triangle heating up with vampire Elena growing closer to Damon perhaps?
People say it's way too soon for vampire Elena, but this is TVD and they do tend to speed through their plots. Also I suspect that Katherine is going to be killed at the end of the year (too much to ask Nina to carry off two roles for another season), and that leaves the way open for Nina to play vampire Elena without worrying about differentiating between Elena and Katherine so much
My spec is that the tragic event is Damon turning Elena. After the way they have copped out on character deaths this year I'm not sure I buy that they will kill a regular for good. And anyway who is really big enough to have that kind of huge impact in the finale episodes? There's been hints that even the big three aren't safe, so I feel like killing and turning Elena is the most likely way of them getting a cliffhanger big enough to compete with season 1's finale and the return of Katherine getting everyone talking. Plus it makes more sense to me for that to be the big point of conflict between Damon and Stefan, rather than Damon say suggesting killing someone else to protect Elena and Stefan being horrified at that. I think that Stefan might outwardly protest, but deep down he would agree with Damon about doing anything to keep Elena safe. But killing Elena at 17 and turning her into a vampire would be a huge issue for Stefan, and could also lead into a lot of potential storylines for season 3 such as the triangle heating up with vampire Elena growing closer to Damon perhaps?
People say it's way too soon for vampire Elena, but this is TVD and they do tend to speed through their plots. Also I suspect that Katherine is going to be killed at the end of the year (too much to ask Nina to carry off two roles for another season), and that leaves the way open for Nina to play vampire Elena without worrying about differentiating between Elena and Katherine so much
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Date: 2011-04-18 10:04 pm (UTC)Elena would definitely have more impact than Jeremy, though. I really have no idea what to expect in terms of pacing with this show, lol. I want to say it's too soon, but you never know.
We're kinda running low on humans, though. I mean, Alaric's chances don't look good, and I'm betting either Jenna or Matt also ends up dead, since they've both been pretty expendable. If they turn Elena or Jeremy on top of that, who's left as human?
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Date: 2011-04-18 10:27 pm (UTC)Honestly I've talked myself into hoping that vampire Elena happens now, even though I know it's not very popular overall. I actually think it could make for a really kickass season 3 if it can help set up Delena in a more organic way, give us back some of the Stefan and Damon conflict that I've missed since season 1, and have the main arc be more about the characters own internal issues rather than external threats and many episodes of planning for moonstones and the threat of Klaus. Plus having vampire Elena would give season 3 a major new plot arc to compete with season 2 seeing the return of Katherine (even if they didn't ultimately do much with her...)
Elena being turned would also kind of take care of the question of are these kids going to college (they are all seniors this year, right?) Not that TVD even pretends to take that stuff seriously any more :P, but it would be a little odd once school was over for Elena to just hang out with the Salvatore's and not go to college, becoming one of the ~undead would take care of keeping Elena and Caroline in town at least. I mean it makes more sense for her to be so wrapped up in their world while she's still in high school, but they need some kind of device to make sense of her continuing to hang around them and not moving on to the living at some point, there have already been discussions with Stefan about Elena eventually growing old and she can't be with him forever
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Date: 2011-04-19 12:45 am (UTC)I would actually prefer this, I think. LOL, you've talked me into it! I'm just wavering on whether the writers are brave enough to go there. (And also hoping they don't kill Bonnie or Caroline, lol, which is why I'm expecting Jeremy, Matt, Alaric, and/or Jenna to go. Wishful thinking, I guess?)
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Date: 2011-04-19 01:07 am (UTC)Honestly I've been a bit disappointed with the show this year. It's hard to definite how exactly because it's by no means badly done, but after a while I start to find all the plot twists exhausting and lacking in emotional resonance, I just want them to concentrate on character development. I feel like Tyler/Caroline proved so popular because their stories were more character-driven with being about coping with the new supernatural status, as opposed to season 2 otherwise feeling like it's almost always about the main plot arc and preparing for Klaus. This might sound lame, but I kind of miss the high school feel when Elena, Bonnie, and Caroline were shown at school and hanging out more. Everything feels so plot-driven this year. Even when they do character moments like pairing off Bonnie and Jeremy, it's like they can't really be bothered to slow down the plot enough to spend time on the development
The episodes I really loved were the premiere because it felt like it was about something internal to the brothers relationship and past with Katherine, episode 203 dealing with vampire Caroline adjusting, and episode 206 (I think?) when they come up with a successful plan to taken down Katherine at the dance. But lately a lot of the episodes have been bleeding together for me as all being about discussing Klaus and the moonstone and ~preparations in some way or another. Last episode was pretty decent though with the dance and some cute character moments
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Date: 2011-04-20 04:19 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2011-04-20 04:32 pm (UTC)Caroline and Tyler were the only characters the writers seemed to care about outside of the big three. Bonnie did get a little more to do I suppose, but it was generally more about advancing the plot. I mean we didn't even get her reaction on-screen to the guy she was crushing on not being all that he seemed, that was just used to advance the Klaus plot
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Date: 2011-04-23 06:34 pm (UTC)I think Tyler and Caroline got strong character stories and that's why I'd rather see Matt go than Tyler. I love Alaric so much more than any of the other male characters excluding Damon, and really want a good story for him. The character and his friendship with Damon is too good to lose.
I wouldn't mind Elena turning. And it would be a good twist for the season finale.
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Date: 2011-04-23 10:59 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2011-04-18 10:34 pm (UTC)From what I've heard Matt is pretty popular with the writers so, much as everyone is expecting Matt to die at some point, I wouldn't be surprised if they kept him on for a bigger plot in season 3. Especially as they still have that dangling plot thread with his mother from season 1's deleted scene. And I wonder if they could perhaps set him up as some kind of vampire hunter? I mean he's not exactly popular with fandom at large, but the writers being fond of him could well see it as a cool twist for the supposed nice guy to ultimately end up actively working against Tyler and Caroline. I could see Matt really fitting that role of (self) righteous vampire slayer
And Alaric seems pretty popular with the writers too, they basically kept him on for season 2 just because of his popularity as you can tell they ran out of ideas after the Isobel arc was wrapped up for him, so I wouldn't be surprised if they kept him around for season 3 as well and tried to come up with a bigger plot for him, although I'm not sure about that one. And I could easily see them killing off Jenna definitely, especially now that Elena will soon be 18 and old enough to take care of herself and be Jeremy's guardian
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Date: 2011-04-19 12:48 am (UTC)I don't think I saw a deleted scene! What's the dangling plot thread? They seemed to have run out of things for Matt to do this season, which is why I wouldn't be surprised to see him die, but I'm all for more Matt, as long as it doesn't involve him and Caroline dithering over whether or not they should date, lol.
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Date: 2011-04-19 12:56 am (UTC)http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c_NFLs3f914
And I'm not a big fan of Matt because I feel like inserting him into Tyler and Caroline's much more interesting storyline just dragged it all down to the level of a triangle that they didn't really need, just to give Matt something to do. I feel like I should like Matt because he has had a tragic life, and his motivations do make sense, but honestly I'm really not a fan of the actors line readings, so I've not been able to sympathize with him much
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Date: 2011-04-20 04:28 pm (UTC)Haha, but I felt the opposite about Matt/Caroline/Tyler. I think Matt's adorable and kind of only tolerate Tyler because his storyline showed how awesome my girl is. :) I liked Caroline and Tyler as friends, mostly, but I didn't want to see them as a couple, so I was annoyed that Tyler dragged it down to a love triangle. :)
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Date: 2011-04-20 04:41 pm (UTC)Idk if they are planning on bringing it back in or not, apparently they dropped it because they didn't wat to introduce more supernatural at that stage. They might be saving it for future plots, but then the actress is on Nikita now so I'm not sure if that would work
I liked Matt more in the beginning, but there is something about the actor that makes his line readings come off as so condescending to me. And even when he's got decent motivations, like when he's bringing up Vicky in his initial confrontation with Caroline, or when he's saying he's all alone now, there is just something whiny and annoying there. I can't really explain it any better than that tbh, I just know it bugs me *g* Maybe it's that he sounds permanently annoyed, like :long-suffering sigh: "Why is everyone putting me out all the time"
I was really rooting for him and Caroline at first when they were hanging out in her room and kissing at the dance, but the second half of season 1 ruined them for me
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Date: 2011-04-18 11:13 pm (UTC)Since Liz and Matt have started working against Caroline I've actually been wondering if they plan to turn him into a vampire hunter and bad guy (well depennding on your perspective *g*) for season 3. I can't really picture him as a vampire somehow, but stranger things have happened!