Miss windy just posted that she wants to report my journal IP for harassment and "assholes and losers" is a polite word for us. I'm so glad I'm so glad I'm never going back there.
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Date: 2004-07-24 04:41 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2004-07-24 04:51 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2004-07-24 08:13 pm (UTC)Trust me, it's not worth it.
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Date: 2004-07-24 09:27 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2004-07-24 07:01 pm (UTC)Naomi-don't even bother. They are so not worth it. That a site and the people in charge of it behaves this way? It's insanity. 90% of anything they have said is generalization, and wrong. And, we are not some alien of 8 people--we are individuals, and they don't get it at all. Just because we know each other and post at sites they think we share one mind?
On top of that-saying we're condescending because we're intelligent?
Also, as I keep pointing out, this has nothing to do with arguing about Lex and Clark-this is about a personal attack on each of us, from a person. They keep making it about Smallville-I could give a fuck less about Smallville. What I'm pissed about is my friends and fellow posters being attacked for NO REASON.
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Date: 2004-07-24 08:03 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2004-07-24 09:58 pm (UTC)They said we were condescending? I'll have to go be snarky again. The most condescending posts in the whole war were from Maveness.
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Date: 2004-07-24 09:14 pm (UTC)Bwah
Date: 2004-07-25 06:42 am (UTC)aquarius here. Welcome to the madness. I told Naomi-I can't believe this fandom is more dangerous than the Buffy one. :)
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Date: 2004-07-25 05:25 am (UTC)No, I didn't. I am not going to report you for anything. I think you misunderstood, whatever you read.
It is a little annoying that I'm getting all the extremely nasty responses in your last post and can't respond, but I'll live.
Here's why you were banned: You posted in your LJ that Lionel's Son has taken it upon himself (herself? According to Ksite logs, Lionel's Son shares ALL his/her IP addresses with celticleod, so they're either roommates, or the same person) to "personally wage a war" against UM on Kryptonsite and elsewhere. You posted this gleefully several times. You fingered celticleod and Jaded as being complicit. You all discussed how this was all talked about in your little chats and you named who was there. YOU DID.
And you expect to NOT get banned from Kryptonsite? WTF? Y'all are on the *good* crack.
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Date: 2004-07-25 06:40 am (UTC)Lionel's Son could have been saying he was going to "personally wage a war" on a freaking voodoo doll, or, maybe on a blank piece of paper. No one knows. Again, it proves what a hypocrite you are, banning people for something in personal journals. Something that is still none of your business. Something you have assumed.
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Date: 2004-07-25 06:58 am (UTC)People have the right to not like UltimateMother. People do not have the right to plot to jeopardize the integrity of the forums. Surely even you can understand the distinction.
Lionel's Son could have been saying he was going to "personally wage a war" on a freaking voodoo doll, or, maybe on a blank piece of paper. No one knows. Again, it proves what a hypocrite you are, banning people for something in personal journals. Something that is still none of your business. Something you have assumed.
What people plot about Kryptonsite absolutely IS my business. If I ignored this, I'd be a bad admin, as it's part of my job to make sure this kind of crap doesn't happen.
You're being totally disingenuous. I didn't *assume* anything - it was there in black and white for all to see. You know quite well that Naomi, talking in a post about UltimateMother, saying "Lionel's son has vowed to wage a personal war against UltimateMother" means exactly what she said it did. Don't be a liar on top of annoying.
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Date: 2004-07-25 07:49 am (UTC)I do not hate Clark. I have been complaining about Clark's late season 3 characterization is all. I think the way the writers fail to explain Clark's motives is failing the character and the fans (and believe it or not I did used to be a big Clark fan up until post Asylum). I have done the same for Lex with this whole "woobie" business. I hate the victim Lex crap they keep pulling, I want the writing fixed. But I do not go storming Clark threads. I rarely post in his forum, the last time I did was in the When is Clark hottest thread and I was not bashing TW's looks. I do remember posting quite a bit in a thread called something like Clark's sins, should he take responsibility, or something and that was quite a while ago. But that thread was clearly named for criticism of Clark's behavior. I do not go looking for positive threads to upset people. I would never do that.
In fact one time I had a problem. In the general forum people were discussing something and I brought up having problems with Clark and Lana's treatment of Chloe in Rosetta. White Flag said as a Clark fan she was tired of seeing him being attacked. I apologised if I upset her and worked things out in PMs, and finished off a Clark friendly video for her to watch. So it was not my intent to offend anyone.
We were not discussing a "jihad". I am not saying the Lex fans are the innocent ones in all this. We were ranting. It was blown out of proportion yes. And yes we should have minded our own fucking business and realised UM's journal was out of bounds. For the 100th time I am ashamed of the things I said and I told UM that. But contrary to your previous post in my journal I did not call UM anything "horrendous". The worst thing I remember saying was asking for her to say who she meant and not be a coward by attacking a whole group of people. Oh and I kept posting her friends were busybodies who should stay out of it. That's the most insulting I ever got. We're all individuals and if some people did in your opinion say really mean things, that doesn't mean that we should all be blamed for it. In particular Jaded never said anything disrespectful to anyone.
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Date: 2004-07-25 09:42 am (UTC)You are assuming that he wasn't just ranting and would actually do anything. You're assuming he's capable of doing anything. You're assuming you know what's going on in his head.
What did that have to do with any of the other posters at the site. (Not meaning me-as you know I was already banned.)
The fact is, when I lost my temper, I said a lot of stupid shit that I wasn't going to do. Since I don't know him personally, I can't say either way that he's serious or ranting.
You're still full of shit, Miss Windy.
Date: 2004-07-25 02:28 pm (UTC)You know how yesterday I said you should be ashamed of yourself? Well, the more you explain yourself, the more ashamed I think you should be. I don't know what the hell you tell yourself to justify all this. And I don't care.
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Date: 2004-07-25 11:46 am (UTC)That is NOT true. An anonymous poster in my journal posted they wanted to PM the mods at krypton site. I figured people would regret saying such things in the heat of the moment, so I had already deleted it anyway. It certainly was not me who posted that. I think the same anon posted the same thing about a vendetta in Crossbow's journal where the biggest argument happened. If you check that out you will see I never posted anything about planning to PM mods about UM. I was just pissed off and discussing in my own journal and with my friends how her insults bothered me. What exactly do you think I was going to PM the krypton mods about???
And if that's why I was banned then you've just confirmed that I was banned for unfair reasons, because you mistook someone else in my lj for me. Guilt by association. You don't have an example of one single post with me agreeing with anyone that I wanted to PM any mods. If you consult the other mods at krypton site you will find I have never said anything against UM in PMs to them. Not one complaint. Yeah, that's some vendetta.
If my friends did then what am I supposed to be about it? My friends aren't me. If UM didn't have a problem with me than I just wish she hadn't posted she hated the entire Lex Mafia, that is why I got involved, only to be told I wasn't who she was thinking of.
I'll reopen the thread you mentioned if you do want to respond. It was open all day, I only locked it because I wanted to move on. I made the whole post private, not just friends only, so no one could read it any more anyway because I was sick of my lj being used for all this hate. I wasn't in a great mood when I posted yesterday so I wasn't exactly polite in my response to you, but if you want to read it feel free.
And no one named Jaded in my lj as part of this "conspiracy" either. One anon poster said they was going to stage war on krypton site so that warrants banning me for trolling?
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Date: 2004-07-25 12:26 pm (UTC)I do not agree with what this person is saying, and the lies she has told me. She can go write her flames in someone else's journal.
I also now realise that UM was getting a lot of abusive PMs. They were most likely all from this person who was posting under multiple identities. She is the many Lex fans who were frustrating UM.
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Date: 2004-07-25 06:22 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2004-07-25 06:44 pm (UTC)I can tell you more about celtic. On our SoL board she posted her life story as celtic. Then, when people were unaware, she posted an entirely different story as a man "Glen" and another man "Lionel's Son". Other people shared things with her and she made a mockery of us all with her lies. Although some of us are suspecting (from the way she posted back and forth to herself on SoL) that she actually does have multiple personality disorder. Some of the stuff she came out with was unreal.
She kept posting about one of her other personalities having problems (Lionel's Son) so be gentle with him. She talked on the phone to Kim! (Who is at work right now I believe) expressing concerns over Lionel's Son, the poster who was actually her.
My poor brain!
I have had my eyes opened to what she has been doing all along and I am horribly embarrassed about the whole situation.
I'm happy to discuss things on AIM. I'm not sure what time you mean by tonight though as in the UK here. But anyway I've just signed in to AIM as Frelling Tralk2
So if you want to talk I am more than happy to share what I know.