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[Poll #1123877]



I'm interested in how it came across to people anyway. I voted for the last option *g* I was totally confused with how they played it. Grant originally offering Lois a job based on overhearing her saying she believed there was a story behind the spaceship. Wouldn't it have been more likely that he would have dismissed her as a crackpot, or someone from The Inquisitor looking to sell trashy stories? And then later on he seemed keen on taking Lois to functions with him, but then he does also praise her writing, so maybe we are actually meant to see it as a mixture of the two...



ETA Urgh make that "an attractive and charismatic person". Can't edit polls :/

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Date: 2008-01-19 02:56 pm (UTC)
ext_3952: (Lois - glasses)
From: [identity profile] duskwillow.livejournal.com
Wouldn't it have been more likely that he would have dismissed her as a crackpot, or someone from The Inquisitor looking to sell trashy stories?
Not necessary. They had the whole mess with the Black Thursday, they had aliens in town, there was a guy in green leather suit parading around town last year, and just this year apparently people saw a girl flying around. *g*
I'd say Metropolis isn't as blind as it was before, and they can't really ignore all those things and pretend they don't exist/are made up.
I mean - we're just few years away before their main news will be about a guy in tights flying around. :)

I went with #2 btw. I don't think he was interested in her in that way until later.
However, I wouldn't be surprised if they hint later on that Lex wanted to keep an eye on her and her snooping, so he got Grant to hire her first chance he gets.

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Date: 2008-01-19 05:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mobiusklein.livejournal.com
My problem is that if I were an editor, someone could talk all they want about something but I'd be wary of 'puffery' like someone talking about something she had heard from a friend who had heard from a friend, etc. but claiming it was hers.

Honestly, it would just have been better if there had been no Grois and that Lois had to write an article to impress someone like Kahn. At the very least, there wouldn't be the stink caused by Lois kissing someone who is her supervisor.

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Date: 2008-01-20 12:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] frelling-tralk.livejournal.com
And it's not a case of the show simply ignoring the issues of dating your boss either, we have Chloe outright say that it would harm Lois's career if it ever got out, so I wonder why they made that choice and then didn't even have Lois be the one to decide to call it off

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Date: 2008-01-20 12:30 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mobiusklein.livejournal.com
TPTB should know that people have problems with Lois therefore should've taken a route to smooth things over then something that only had the potential to make things worse or at the very least, not improve things.

Also, most people with info don't become reporters, they're people reporters interview . . . sources. Sources =/= reporters. Even fixers in foreign countries who know where stuff are and how to smooth things over don't automatically become hired as reporters or told to write the stories themselves but accompany the reporters so the reporter can do their job. If I were Grant, I would rather have wrung her dry of her info or got one of my senior reporters to do so than hire her per se.

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Date: 2008-01-20 12:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] frelling-tralk.livejournal.com
Originally I thought that Lex was behind the hiring possibly, but I'm not sure if they later implied that was less than likely? This show never gives a straight answer to anything!! I hate the mess they have made of Lionel's character too, and then think it makes the character more interesting to be "ambiguous". It really really doesn't. Consistent character arcs that make sense FTW!!

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Date: 2008-01-19 03:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ellyfanfic.livejournal.com
I couldn't vote, because one of the answers wasn't "It was clearly part of Lex's plot to anger and demoralize Chloe and to undercut the Daily Planet's reputation." That's the only take on it that makes any sense to me:-).

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Date: 2008-01-19 09:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] frelling-tralk.livejournal.com
Originally I was spoiled for Grant being shady, so I thought there was definitely something dodgy about the hiring, and it was most likely connected to Lex. But I left that option out because I didn't think that Grant and Lex's conversations ultimately suggested that was the case?
Edited Date: 2008-01-19 09:14 pm (UTC)

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Date: 2008-01-19 05:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dm-wyatt.livejournal.com
Well, they explain it later I think, but I basically thought at the time he was intrigued by her, not necessarily in a sexual way, when he hired her. It wasn't for her writing although her skills that were ignored either...

The dating came later.

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Date: 2008-01-19 09:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] frelling-tralk.livejournal.com
I think that Grant was impressed with Lois's personality type definitely, and maybe saw some of himself in her?

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Date: 2008-01-19 06:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kpjmm.livejournal.com
Mmmm... Well, the show is always pretty bad with showing 'reasons' for why a character does what a character does, but from reading interviews, it seems that it was a 'mixture of the two' for Grant.

At first, I thought it came across as a way to give Chloe a kick in the butt and have them compete for stories, but the show didn't even go there. So, I guess I will have to go with the last one myself. However, I would say that for any character on the show...wouldn't you?

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Date: 2008-01-19 09:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] frelling-tralk.livejournal.com
Yeah I was disappointed with how Kara clearly set up a Lois and Chloe rivalry which would hopefully have seen them both more career competitive and improving their skills, and then the show barely went there. Instead in Gemeni Chloe actually handed Lois research on Lex???

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Date: 2008-01-19 10:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] grlmonday.livejournal.com
Where did you get that Lexana "Tackle" icon? Is it from an episode that I don't recall, or a behind the scenes? I'd love to see that actual moment, and hear what he's saying to her.

ETA: I voted one. I thought he hired her because he was crooked and involved with Lex, but since that option wasn't available, I took my second opinion, that he was trying to get into her pants.
Edited Date: 2008-01-19 10:32 pm (UTC)

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Date: 2008-01-19 10:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] frelling-tralk.livejournal.com
It's from Crimson, episode 13 of season 6 :D It's when Lex is showing Lana the nursery he prepared, and it's so cute. "Stegosaurus or Mr Duck" *g* He tackles Lana in the corridor

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Date: 2008-01-19 10:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] grlmonday.livejournal.com
Aw! It's a shame that all turned out to be a fake...

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Date: 2008-01-20 12:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] frelling-tralk.livejournal.com
Yeah I don't know if it was MR's way of protesting a really lame plot lol, but he certaintly didn't play those scenes as anything but genuine emotion from Lex

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Date: 2008-01-20 12:30 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] grlmonday.livejournal.com
I know. That's why I was convinced that Lex was innocent and Lionel was behind the whole fake baby thing, because that was a pathetic plot line, and waaaaaay below Lex Luthor.

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Date: 2008-01-19 09:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] carcassi.livejournal.com
I went for option #3, b/c I'm not sure if Grant hired EDLois for her looks, or because Lex told him to find a way to discourage Chloe. I do think TPTB kept Grant's motivations somewhat ambiguous, but the one thing I find impossible to believe is that Grant hired her for her reporting skills, since he couldn't have known whether she had any at that time (in spite of what he claimed later), unless he was faking when he seemed not to know her name. And if so, why?

Of course, TPTB can retcon anything, but to me, the only explanation that makes sense is that Grant hired her for a reason that had nothing to do with her talent or experience as a journalist.

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Date: 2008-01-19 10:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] frelling-tralk.livejournal.com
I'm not sure if Grant hired EDLois for her looks, or because Lex told him to find a way to discourage Chloe.


But wouldn't Lex suspect that, having Grant talking of how Chloe has lost her edge/Lois could well leave the basement first, would only convince Chloe to try harder for career advancement? Mind you, according to the show, Chloe still hasn't thought of using her Lex research to break a big story *rollseyes*

I don't think that Grant could have known who Lois was at first, he just overheard her speaking when he first offered her a job possibility, right? The only reporting or writing skills he witnessed there was Lois insisting that there could be a story there, which any reporter would have said (The only reason Chloe didn't was because of her connection to Clark and the secret after all)

TPTB tend to leave things too ambiguous, I still can't make sense of the fake baby and cloning storylines!

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Date: 2008-01-19 10:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] svgurl.livejournal.com
I have to agree with the person who said Grant saw a bit of him in her. She was stubborn, determined and not at all nice to him in the beginning. I really think there may have been slight interest but the real attraction only came later.



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Date: 2008-01-19 10:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] frelling-tralk.livejournal.com
I think that Grant took a more than professional interest in Lois from the start, although not necessarily in a sexual way. But it was almost like he wanted to hire Lois before he had actually seen what she was like as a writer, or out in the journalist field, which was what struck me as odd at the time

Recognising his own personality traits in Lois makes some sense to me. He is not how I had imagined that Julian would be at all!
Edited Date: 2008-01-19 10:37 pm (UTC)

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Date: 2008-01-19 11:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ladydreamer.livejournal.com
I still think he hired her for her booty. They set it up so badly, that I don't know if I'll change my mind. Him showing her the article LATER (and the story she pretty much stole from Chloe in Combat), instead of during her hiring, is suspect. One could say that he only showed her that so she wouldn't think that he was promoting her unfairly (which, even if he did think she was a great writer, he IS).

I like Lois, but I really am put out by this plotline to shoehorn her into where she's supposed to be. It's lazy, and they had all the elements to organically get her in on her way to becoming a great reporter. She doesn't have to be Super Wonderful Sparlie Special starting out, and they don't need a crazy plot involving clones and romance to springboard her there either.

If they hadn't dated though, I'd be checking number four. That was pretty wtf.

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Date: 2008-01-20 12:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] frelling-tralk.livejournal.com
One could say that he only showed her that so she wouldn't think that he was promoting her unfairly (which, even if he did think she was a great writer, he IS).

Y'know I did think that Grant's raving over Lois's prose later on in Kara (leaping off the page like a tiger) was a bit O/T and possibly buttering her up lol. Grant definitely offers Lois great opportunities like out of town stories, and exclusives on Lex Luthor, so it comes off as BS when he tells her that their relationship isn't giving her unfair advantages. We were never seen Chloe say, ever getting handed those types of stories, she always had to go out there and find her own
Edited Date: 2008-01-20 12:23 am (UTC)

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Date: 2008-01-20 01:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mojotastic.livejournal.com
I think Grant was impressed with something and it wasn't her writing ability, let's just put it that way. He hired her based off basically nothing but her "gumption" (read: u R hawt!) without even looking at a writing sample. And as soon as she started he put her on the best beats and the juiciest stories (where she tried to use her press power to get free concert tickets) instead of having her work her way up.

It also seemed to me that he always seemed to be romantically pursuing her. I mean, the romance started up very, VERY quickly after her hiring. Storyline/show-wise, the Grois (I love their smushed together ship name. It sounds just like I feel about it.) started in their what? Second or third scene together?

So I'd say he totally hired her because he wanted to tap that. :P

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Date: 2008-01-20 01:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] frelling-tralk.livejournal.com
Hee. Yeah people have argued that Lois starting in the basement means she was starting just as much from the bottom as Chloe has, but I don't see that. For a start, Lois got hired at The Inquisitor the very first time she wrote an article, she suddenly gets begging emails offering her a job from that one story. And a story on a barn door that they rewrote no less. Please. It wasn't like she broke anything big like the Green Arrow for that story. It was a barn door. Next she gets a job at the DP just based on the editor overhearing her speak about being a journalist who is determinedly looking for a story. And the DP is a really prestigious newspaper!

I'd say she's in the basement in name only, considering that she spends so much time in the editors room with him looking over her work, and trying to find the best stories for her. If you really want someone to work themselves up from the bottom on their own merits, you don't hand an interview with Lex Luthor into their lap. I'm surprised the gossip hasn't already started actually, because if I were a senior editor there, I'd be furious at the favouritism that Lois gets *shrugs* Where are Chloe's journalistic instincts for goodness sake, she can't spot the personal time that Lois gets with the editor, and sense the sleaze there????
Edited Date: 2008-01-20 01:46 pm (UTC)

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Date: 2008-01-20 02:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sum1-different.livejournal.com
They hired Lois at the daily planet? Don't you have to be able to read and write for that job?

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Date: 2008-01-20 01:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] frelling-tralk.livejournal.com
Erica herself said that Chloe is the more intellectual cousin actually, whilst Lois wants to go out there and do something a little more physical. But then she started talking about a battle of wits between Lex and Lois, and broke my brain :P
Edited Date: 2008-01-20 06:28 pm (UTC)

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Date: 2008-01-22 10:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sum1-different.livejournal.com
Lois is supposed to have wits?

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Date: 2008-01-20 05:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] awehla.livejournal.com
In my world people don't get jobs like that at a drop of a hat plus I think she should have worked harder for it so I voted that I have no idea why he hired her.

Lisa
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Date: 2008-01-20 06:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] frelling-tralk.livejournal.com
ITA, it was like Lois didn't have to work to impress a disapproving editor at all, but Grant was simply willing her to do a good enough job on that spaceship article that he could justify hiring her

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Date: 2008-01-21 12:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] awehla.livejournal.com
Yeah it was weird. They really messed up on Lois getting into journalism.

Lisa
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