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An audio interview with Miles

http://www.voicesfromkrypton.com/

"The Lana/Lex plot/triangle was something we couldn't do for various reasons, and I think that really gave Lana a reason to be in the series. And that she finally came forward as a real character with something to do, and seeing Lex and Lana together gave the season a completely different different fresh take, and danger. And it allowed the characters to grow in a way that they hadn't been allowed to do before. So for me that was the strongest element of the show, and it was a huge triangle. "

It's so strange that they always sound so enthusiastic about Lexana, and never as critical of it as they were of Clana in seasons 3 and 5. Yet they keep bringing Clana back, and Lexana (supposedly the relationship they were so excited about writing after a long wait), was rushed horribly in season 6. They barely even let them kiss, not to mention ending it with Lana just falling out of love in Promise, in a way that totally doesn't match up with what Wither and Static presented. Yet they gush about Lexana in interviews *shrugs*

ETA Mention of the casting spoiler is in the interview, if you wish to avoid mention of that

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See, them even admitting that Lana needed a reason to be in the series is basically telling us that she really has no purpose *of her own* on the show. Her role in the universe of Smallville was done once she stopped being Clark's girlfriend. And what character growth? Surely AlMiles isn't talking about Clark nor Lex with that one.

I think they hate Clana because they think it's Clark who treats Lana badly, so that's why they seem so critical of it. As for Lexana, they probably feel there's something mutual between Lex and Lana. I don't understand it, either.

Lol yeah. I know there's been discussion on female characters on SV, and it's been suggested that disliking Lana can be down to jealousy. But when even the writers are talking of how Lana only came forward as a real character with something to do in season 6, and yet she was the main female lead with tons of screen time all along *shrugs*

I do enjoy Lana in seasons 5 and 6. But in seasons 3 and 4, it was ridiculous how they had to try and force her role into the show. I think they made a mistake making her a lead as important as Clark and Lex. Because they themselves admit that she was originally conceived more as a girl next door sweetheart type character, and she worked as that in season 1. Then in season 2 she's suddenly a really prominent part of the show, and there's the boring Henry Small sub plot, and the stories about her Aunt remarrying. I don't know

Yeah, it's sad how the writers are "now, she has something to do!" she's supposed to be a lead; she should always have something to do. Yet, she doesn't.

I enjoyed Lana in early season 5. She was angst free and she actually had a personality. ITA that making her a lead was a mistake. Just...why? She's really not that interesting. She should have been recurring for the earlier seasons on this show. She really shouldn't have been on this show past season five, to be honest.

I think they hate Clana because they think it's Clark who treats Lana badly, so that's why they seem so critical of it. As for Lexana, they probably feel there's something mutual between Lex and Lana. I don't understand it, either.

And hee I was actually just playing Sneeze today because my sister hadn't seen that episode yet. And in the mansion scene with Clark and Lana, she was asking why Lana was being so nasty to him. And I was saying that she will switch around by the end of season 6, so her only loyalty then is to Clark *g* I certainly find Lana more interesting to watch now, but she's so inconsistent. The suddenly falling out of love with Lex is still baffling to me after watching Static (I mean in Promise/Combat when she was cringing away before finding out about the faked baby). I really wish the writers could have had Lana want to back out of the wedding because of finding out about Lex's experiments on Chloe in Freak or something. Instead it was like she suddenly finds out Clark's secret, and then it turns her stomach to even have Lex near her after that *scatches head*

It's hard for me to now be touched by her loyalty to Clark when she is switching around so much. I mean in Vessel it was Lex she was running to after having decided that Clark wanted to kill Lex

When he says they couldn't do the Lana/Lex plot for various reasons that again leads me to believe it was perhaps out of their hands. Maybe it was the pressure from angry Clana fans or it could be that the network and/or DC didn't want Lana with Lex because they didn't want her character tainted. They want her to remain Little Miss Goody Two Shoes. But it's a relief to know that Al knew Lex and Lana had a good thing going on and that it made Lana more interesting. I'm quite suprised actually as I thought he would be championing Clana again in preparation for it's comeback. But he does indeed sound miffed to. Still, there's no excuse for how badly Lexana's demise was written. All those years of build up, for that.

I think Lana being underage was an issue for them at first. Jason's intro in season 4 kind of felt like it was stalling the Lexana then, and we get comments on the show about Lana not being 18 yet when she was dating Jason.

Once Lana was of age in season 5, they could write Lexana. But they decide to bring Clana back in season 5 as well, which meant that Lexana was way too rushed, and we really didn't get much happy couple time :/ First kiss in Fragile, agreeing to date in Fade, moving in together in Sneeze, proposal in Static *head spinning*

A&M both gush over Lexana, but then they never let them kiss when they were a couple hardly. In season 6 they kissed in Wither, Static, Subterrean, and Promise, and that was it. Wtf? I refuse to count cheek kisses. Even the wedding kiss was filmed from way in the back. It just makes it even more baffling to hear them talk up Lexana in interviews

I agree. Even though I'd been rooting for Lex and Lana to get together since season 1, I also thought it was rather rushed. Lana pouncing on Lex in Fragile seemed out of the blue and I thought it rather odd. But then again it was Lex and Lana kissing finally, without anyones face being slapped, so despite how it actually happened, I was still a happy bunny.

I can never watch Static again now though because Lana bliubbing "I love you" to Lex seems a waste of time now. They've ruined it for me *scowls*

I did think that the build-up in Lockdown-Fragile was pretty good. It was after the first kiss of Fragile, and the officially getting together in Fade, that it became so rushed for me. I mean after Fade is Vessel/Zod which isn't even real Lex most of the time, yet Sneeze already sees Lex and Lana moving in together! I wanted more kisses and happy couple time before they became like a settled married couple at around the time of Reunion

My computer won't play the audio, so if the interview has more, I apologize for any misunderstanding.

1. I imagine he means the "Lana/Lex/Clark" plot triangle, because Lana/Lex: two people. Do they mean ultimately they couldn't do it, or couldn't do it till S5-6 (when Lana was "legal", blech). And, if the "various reasons" resulted in the copout because of fan reaction, blecch, again.

Interesting to hear Miles open his mouth for a change, though.

He said "Lana/Lex/Clark triangle was something we wanted but couldn't do for various reasons." I think he meant having to wait for them to turn legal :)
He says after something along the lines that [the triangle being played out] made the show the best drama it could be. Eh.

He says after something along the lines that [the triangle being played out] made the show the best drama it could be. Eh

*snort*

I think that A&M got more excited over triangles and Clexana, than they ever do for a single ship *g*

But then they still seem quite excited for what Lexana brings out in the characters, so I don't understand why they would back off from going all the way and making Lana the dark Lady Macbeth partner to Lex. Instead, when we actually got Lexana, the show became more focused on Clana than ever. And yet they still seem very invested in Lexana in interviews, which is kind of weird. Because in that case, now that Lana is of age, why not stick with Lexana, and drop the Clana for good.

Because in that case, now that Lana is of age, why not stick with Lexana, and drop the Clana for good.

I'm not really sure of the facts, of course, but it really does sound like (failing a better explanation) those 250 letters and the "Bring Back Clana" demands caused TPTB to switch horses midstream. Result: all the flailing and scrambling with the storyline. Maybe the fledgling and uncertain CW put pressure on them? Maybe they assumed that was really the Voice of SV fandom, and it was a naive attempt to "give the fans what they want"?

It's really a shame, because the Lexana was progressing fairly organically to that point. While not my 'ship of choice, I was on board to some extent as long as Lana cared about Lex. When they predictably turned Lana into the innocent fly trapped in the Luthor web, they lost me for good.

At the very least, they could have given Lana more of a reason to break off the relationship. They could have had her acknowledge that she really did love Lex for a while, but that discoveries and suspicions of his nefarious experiments/activities, terrified and outraged her morally to such an extent that she could no longer support him and had to escape. The hamhanded plot element of her discovering Clark's powers (not to mention the Fake Baby)need have had nothing to do with it.

Instead, they gave us that scene at the end of "Static" where Lana was all, "Go, 33.1! it's perfectly cool with your study and experiments on the freaks,"--just to muck up the waters further.

Instead, they gave us that scene at the end of "Static" where Lana was all, "Go, 33.1! it's perfectly cool with your study and experiments on the freaks,"--just to muck up the waters further.

Waste! It would have been awesome if the set-up of Lana and Lex's frustration with Clark's lies, actually did follow through on the two of them working together against Clark.

And yes, I just wish Lana could have been given a better reason for suddenly being so cold to Lex. I mean even if she did decide that she loved Clark more, in Promise and Combat, it was suddenly like she had completely fallen out of love with Lex, and felt nothing for him at all. A proper triangle should have had Lana as more torn between the two of them, and yeah making decisions like weighing up Lex's criminal misdeeds Vs Clark's lying to her or something.

It was silly to have Static, with Lana willing to be lost in static with Lex for good, and then follow up with her no longer loving Lex for no good reason. (Pre fake baby). And then it was even lamer to suddenly have it that Lana was trapped by pregnancy into being with Lex all along.

Maybe you could mention that there are spoilers there - it says who's coming to the show, he mentions it and there's a picture. ;)
Although at this point I don't think there's a person alive that doesn't know...

Sorry Miles but season 6 was *not* the best season yet.

So Lana's reason to be in the series was Clexana triangle? LMAO
Well they played that off now...>:)

How the hell did interviewer manage to kill almost 5 minutes on trying to get some spin off info? He could have asked more questions.

Sorry Miles but season 6 was *not* the best season yet.

It was the season of Lana getting more screen time than anyone other than Clark, so I'm not surprised that they both consider it the best season. Yet they slammed season 3, which was Lex's year :/

And yeah the interviewer seemed to be a major GA and JL fan, more than of Clark and SV!

And yeah the interviewer seemed to be a major GA and JL fan, more than of Clark and SV!
I noticed that, he was all 'the show should have turned in Clark/GA show, they should have had equal screen time'.
Um, dude, I love Ollie but you do know this is young Superman? lol

I don't understand why they slam season three. I think season three was one of the best seasons.

As for the interviewer being more of a fan of GA and the JL than Clark and SV, well, the same can be said for AlMiles

And yeah the interviewer seemed to be a major GA and JL fan, more than of Clark and SV!

Yeah I know. That really bugged me. This is Clark's show. Out of all the other characters, it's mostly about him. Some characters like Lex are super important, but at the end of the day, it's all about Clark.

Grr.

I think after 6 years, they are struggling to do anything but stall Clark. I believe the original plan was for four years?

Lex is easier to write as getting deeper into it with Level 33.1 although even then it's lame how he fails in elections in season 5, and has no decent security. At this point he should be moved out of the SV mansion, winning over the people, and having Mercy at his side. Still they've certaintly managed to develop mad scientist Lex more over the past few years, and seen him becoming darker

But they can't really show Clark becoming more good, so I think they are a bit lost as to what to do with him. Because of the no tights, no flights, Clark's journey has had to be stalled even more badly. I mean yeah he rescues people, but that's what he was doing back in season 1! He needs real progression as in he should be learning to fly by now at the very least, and getting more into journalism. Instead it's hard to see a huge difference between season 4 Clark, and season 6 Clark IMHO

And I've added a spoiler warning! Sorry, I always forget with casting spoilers

Sorry, didn't mean it to sound like I'm complaining or anything. :)
It's just, I noticed LJ seems a bit spoiler sensitive. I still remember when I forgot to put who's coming to TW behind cut. :( I had no idea casting is also spoilers. Who knew so much discussion can happen after that.

I got in trouble for that too :/

I just want to know when the hell they're going to explain the fake baby cr*p. The interviwer told Miller that one of his main gripes with the show was that storylines were started and then dropped without proper closure so perhaps now they'll take note and mention the baby next season...but I won't hold my breath.

They needed Lex to give us his explanation in the finale, I was so pissed that they didn't. After MR played Lex as having no clue what Lana meant, they'd better not just leave that plot as it is with us all wondering

I don't have a problem with Lex being evil. The walk in Subterrean made me drool! But I object to them writing him as so needy and desperate as faking a pregnancy, and I really want some definitive answers to that soon

Far as I'm concerned, Lexana and Clana are two of the worst ships on tv. God knows why anybody would want to get together with insipid Lana. The show seems to put her forward as this woman all guys can't help but be crazy about, with Lex of all people falling for her. I really don't get the attraction. I want Lana OFF the show. And Lex should get together with Chloe (Clarke's too dumb for her).

Chlex is one of my most hated ships I'm afraid *g*

What's wrong with it? They're two of the intelligent people on the show (the only other one is Lionel).

I like the scenes where they banter, I just see no sexual chemistry

That's exactly how I feel.

["I like the scenes where they banter, I just see no sexual chemistry"]

Well, the show hasn't tried to develop chem between those too. Maybe there would be some if they were put in the right situation. Meanwhile, I don't see chem between Lana and either of the guys. Compare the Lana ships with Clarke/Alicia, now that ship had real chem.

And that's all taking your no-chem-in-chlex view as a given but I'm not sure I'd agree with it at all.

But Lana.... she's a no-chemistry zone.

Honestly, I haven't really been looking for chemistry between Lex and Chloe, because much as I'd like them together the show wasn't going that way.

I loved Clark and Alicia!! :)

Well, this interview was pretty much a waste of space. God, the show is about Smallville and Clark Kent.

You know, I could be really biased here because I never liked Clana, but I saw the Lexana sparks from S1. Lex has this thing. This obsessive thing. He always wants what Clark wants or has. He tried to covet Clark's family, Clark's friends, and Clark's girlfriend. This is the same as Lex trying to covet whatever belongs to Superman. But in the end, what Lex wants is respect and love. He's insanely jealous that Clark seems to have it without much effort.

Knowing this, they could have done some amazing stuff with Lexana or even the Clark/Lana/Lex triangle. They just...I don't know! They broke off Clark and Lana in a way that was so terrible, I knew the Lexana would be doomed. And then they screwed up the Lexana for more bad Clana. I know it's easier to point and complaina dn say we could do better, but it truly was handled poorly.

I think that's what's really frustrating with Lexana's break-up, because they could so easily have ended it in a way that made sense, and didn't just have the writers decide that today Lana will no longer love Lex.

And in season 5, when they themselves complain about the number of times Clana break up again after Reckonning, then why write it that way??? Don't they plan the season out at all *sighs*

That interview made me nauseous (and I only listened to the first few minutes since I don't care to listen to the interviewer go on and on about how awesome GA was). I just still baffled by how AlMiles think this was the best season ever and how well they think they handled the Clexana. It was the most sloppily, poorly executed romantic triangles I've ever seen (and I tend to hate tv romantic triangles on principle, but this one just surpasses them all in how terrible it was)...and they keep patting themselves on the back! WTF?

And the fact Miles basically comes out and says that the entire triangle was to give Lana a purpose and make her a "real character" (which btw, I totally disagree with him. S6 just exemplifies that Lana is always going to be nothing more than a "love interest" and is never going to be allowed to become a real character)is so aggravating. They damaged Lex and Clark's characters (who I consider the main characters) to give Lana something to do and made her the effective "star" over them.

Yet they keep bringing Clana back, and Lexana (supposedly the relationship they were so excited about writing after a long wait), was rushed horribly in season 6. They barely even let them kiss, not to mention ending it with Lana just falling out of love in Promise, in a way that totally doesn't match up with what Wither and Static presented.
ITA. I liked how Lexana developed at first and then when we got to S6, they all of a sudden seemed to rush it. Looking back, I think "Static" was just an example of this. They wanted to bring in the triangle and want to do the wedding arc so they need to have Lana declare her love for Lex so we can see why she marries him...even if that love only lasts for that one episode. Anything after "Arrow", just felt strange and rushed and convoluted, like they were trying to squeeze the ups and downs of a relationship that should have taken half a season to a season to develop into a few episodes so they could get going on their triangle. Really, it seems like they just treated Lexana as a plot device to get them to Clexana and Clana Resurrected. :/

ITA. I liked how Lexana developed at first and then when we got to S6, they all of a sudden seemed to rush it.

Totally. And yeah their true love in it all seems to be Clexana *sighs*

What's the casting spoiler?

Kara (Supergirl) is joining the show!

Who's playing the part?

and I think that really gave Lana a reason to be in the series

Miles saying that after the two of them saying that the whole witch business in S4 was all about them trying to tie Lana into the mythology aspect of the show is proof positive that they grasping at straws for a way to make her character interesting and relevant to the show. And that's really sad that they're still trying so hard after 6 seasons. They really just need to give up and admit defeat.

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