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I tire of being pissed on by A&M, and being asked to do a fucking rain dance over it. And I tire of shippers coming to a LEXANA fan board to make stupid brain-dead remarks.

Lana dumping Lex by letter. On his wedding day. When he gave her so much time to consider the proposal. Being blackmailed into the marriage, and crying at the alter. They can't even give us love and kissing in a Lexana wedding episode, no it's Clana who are the ones kissing and planning to run away together

*tries not to cry*
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Date: 2007-03-16 01:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] frelling-tralk.livejournal.com
*sniffs* I have missed seeing Lex/Lionel scenes, but after reading the episode summary, I don't have the heart to sit through such a travesty of an episode :/

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Date: 2007-03-16 01:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lunarknightz.livejournal.com
I am pretending that this entire episode was a dream.

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Date: 2007-03-16 02:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] frelling-tralk.livejournal.com
I...don't know what to think. Why, why would Lana leave Lex at the alter with just a note!

Why would the future Superman kiss someone elses pregnant fiance, and plan to run away with her?

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Date: 2007-03-16 02:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] txvoodoo.livejournal.com
WHOA. It's been a long time since I watched this show, apparently. Lana's pregnant? She married Lex?

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Date: 2007-03-16 02:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] frelling-tralk.livejournal.com
Lexana got together near the end of last season. Earlier this season Lex proposed, and Lana was expecting his baby. Then the network stepped in, we think it might be because of "250" letters from Clana fans they talk about, Steven DeKnight was moaning about backseat drivers not knowing how the studio and network "obscure" the road


But basically, after spending early season 6 wanting nothing to do with Clark, Lana is in love with him again, and apparently doesn't give a shit about Lex. Oh and she kisses Clark and offers to run away with him, on the morning of the beatiful Lexana wedding that we were so looking forward too. And she plans to leave Lex at the alter, not face to face, but with a note saying sorry.

Then Lionel steps in and blackmails Lana into marrying Lex by threatening to kill Clark if she doesn't. So she makes herself a martyr for Clark, isn't that special Then she cries during the ceremony, and keeps glancing at Clark, then they mope at one another at the limo in the end as she's leaving with Lex. Oh and they're planning to make the baby that we were looking forward too, be some evil scheme that Lex is doing to Lana with some monster freak baby


I think that about covers it *swallows bile*

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Date: 2007-03-16 02:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] txvoodoo.livejournal.com
Um. Wow.

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Date: 2007-03-17 10:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sum1-different.livejournal.com
So she DID marry Lex in the end?

Clana is a disease, I wish they'd let go of it. Of course you know I'm not any more enthusiastic about lexana but I think you'd probably prefer if it I didn't go into that right now.

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Date: 2007-03-17 11:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] frelling-tralk.livejournal.com
Thank you :) *hugs*

And yeah. Lionel blackmailed Lana into marrying Lex, and she was cringing from Lex's touch, and moping during the ceremony. The ceremony that I was stupid enough to look forward too. And she started crying right after saying her vows. And other characters commented on Lana being trapped in a loveless marriage with a heartless monster.

Lana originally was going to dump Lex with this note, "I'm so sorry. I can't go through with it". And that was all she felt she owed Lex

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Date: 2007-03-16 01:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mojotastic.livejournal.com
Oh man. My heart bled for Lexana shippers tonight. It was just...it was awful. Everyone was so out of character.

Lionel was the only one who was worth watching the episode for. Lionel is made of WIN. Seriously. Sometimes I think that Lionel is the only one who can make me believe improbable plot elements on this show.

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Date: 2007-03-16 02:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ladydey.livejournal.com
My problem is that none of them should be this stupid.

1. Lana kisses Clark, and agrees to run away with him, in Lex's study - the same study that Lana knows is wired with video surveillance. That's and idea for the win.

2. Lex kills some one, with his bare hands, on his own property? Lex Luthor? What now??

3. Lex allowing Lionel to get away with hitting and blackmailing him? Yeah, right?

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Date: 2007-03-16 02:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] frelling-tralk.livejournal.com
Ths show sucks

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Date: 2007-03-16 01:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] prim-rose-etta.livejournal.com
hah! I hope they show Lex seeing the surveillance tape, next Fall.

I think this ep showed Lex really being crazy, since he was so talking bout loving Lana and all the time he's using her for his eevol baby hatching.

It was rediculous how Martha was back to saying, go out there and get her, Clark! After he trashed the engagement party doing his me love you thing.

Yes, vey back and forth on all charcters, but I've gotten rather used to it, for the last three seasons, you know, somehow it's gotten to be second nature to just...let it glide by my iris and impact my brain cells without my really being bothered...excellent job of coping, I'd say.

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Date: 2007-03-16 02:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ellyfanfic.livejournal.com
Oh, you poor thing. I didn't realize the Lexana part of it was so bad (I skipped this one). What happened to her saying she loved Lex AND Clark? Total retcon?

Poor Viola. Eeeek.

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Date: 2007-03-16 02:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] frelling-tralk.livejournal.com
The writers for Promise were the same writers from Hydro with "i love both of you", but apparently all Promise did was prop up Clana

Well there's Martha telling StalkerSupes to leave Lana alone in Crimson, then advising him to propose to Lana or whatever now she's approaching her wedding day. So I don't get the feeling that consistency is the goal here

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Date: 2007-03-16 02:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ellyfanfic.livejournal.com
I honestly get the impression the writers got drunk while they were doing this one.

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Date: 2007-03-16 03:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pepperjackcandy.livejournal.com
I think they should test the air in the writers' rooms for emissions of some kind.

Carbon monoxide?

Nitrous oxide?

Some kind of industrial solvents?

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Date: 2007-03-16 02:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] goodnightsong.livejournal.com
I don't even think watching the episode myelf is going to make me feel better now. In fact, I think it will only make me feel worse. I don't think I can stand to watch this mess.

I feel like the show has just pissed all over us fans and our ship. The show really IS all about Clana isn't it? Forget Superman, and Clark's destiny. Forget growth. Ha. Who needs that! It's all about the nauseating soap opera that is Clanaville. Just what in the hell happened to the first half of the season? Oy. And what ticks me off even more is hearing that Clana get a kiss (or was it two? Gag) and they cut out the Lexana kiss that was in the teaser. What the hell ever.

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Date: 2007-03-16 02:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ellyfanfic.livejournal.com
What? They cut the Lexana kiss? Really?

I can't say how revolted I am that the future Supes would be kissing a woman who's about to be married. That right there kills the rest of the season for me.

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Date: 2007-03-16 02:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] acampbell.livejournal.com
The only thing that comforts me right now is that Lex just has to get bitter and vengeful (though that wasn't what I wanted for him) and bust her ass.

But no, knowing SV, he'll just blame Clark for everything.

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Date: 2007-03-16 02:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] withafireinside.livejournal.com
They pretty much killed whatever respect I had left for Lana. Do they really not get what makes fans hate Lana so much? That every time they return to the Clana, they make her into a selfish, spineless, cowardly little twit? And they make Clark into a whiny bastard? It's bad that Lex is a murderer and I have more sympathy for him than any of the other characters. Dumbasses.

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Date: 2007-03-16 03:01 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] frelling-tralk.livejournal.com
Do they really not get what makes fans hate Lana so much? That every time they return to the Clana, they make her into a selfish, spineless, cowardly little twit?

I think the network is just asking them to cater to Clana at this point

And apparently Clark says something about losing Lana being the worst day of his life. Yeah that's right, worse than the day his father DIED just last season.

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Date: 2007-03-16 04:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tasabian.livejournal.com
Sorry, Frelling. *hugs* I'm no fan of Lana but every Lexana fan I've encountered online has been completely lovely and I'm so sorry Al & Miles have botched yet another plot-line.

I haven't watched the ep yet either - I think I'm going to fastforward through all but the Lionel/Lex bits.

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Date: 2007-03-16 01:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] frelling-tralk.livejournal.com
Thank you :)

I do want to see the Lex/Lionel scenes, those sound good at least *sighs*

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Date: 2007-03-18 03:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] frelling-tralk.livejournal.com
I'm no fan of Lana but every Lexana fan I've encountered online has been completely lovely

And y'know maybe Lexana fans should have been more aggressive for our ship, like the Clana, Clois, and Chlark fans. Swarming K-site, and Steven DeKnight's blog is something that was avoided, and most of us shippers were staying in our Lexana havens, and leaving the show to write whatever story they want. But then that led to us being treated as nonexistent by the writers and the CW. Seems that jumping up and down in a tantrum does lead to positive ship results after all.

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Date: 2007-03-18 05:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tasabian.livejournal.com
"Seems that jumping up and down in a tantrum does lead to positive ship results after all."

But not positive ratings results. After all the trailers, commercials and interviews, and being the most heavily promoted ep. of the year - "Promise" simply didn't come through with the viewer numbers.

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Date: 2007-03-23 12:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] frelling-tralk.livejournal.com
Good. I hope ratings fall badly from now on

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Date: 2007-03-16 05:48 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/_touched/
I hear you on everything that you just said and I echo it 10x over. As a fan of Lex&Lana from the very beginning of this series, with their first encounter on the show - 5 years, baby...I feel like I've been split apart down the center, gutted from the inside out, and sewn back together all wrong.

I wanted to cry, tonight. Absolutely wanted to cry, but I refused to do it in front of my mother who is a Clois/Clana shipper. I don't think that there has *ever* been a television show or episode, that has ever left me feeling this fucked over or this upset.

Seriously, I'm now reduced to Summer (re: see The O.C.), and am having rage blackouts over this all over the mother frakin' place. I just - really, we were just shit all over double time and it's not even right or fair. And I can't even begin to tell you how much it hurts me to say that, if this was the way they intended to ruin Lex&Lana - then I wished to fucking god they would have never given us the better moments.

I really fucking hate Clana right now. I cannot even begin to express my outrage and contempt and I'd like to have five minutes in a room with A&M as well as the pesky Clana fans out there - because they'll be mother fucking wishing they could jump off a goddamn bridge when I'm done with them.

*hugs you tightly*

I just don't have the words for how much my heart is shattered right now, so shattered that it's killing me to even look at my icons and my layout.

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Date: 2007-03-16 01:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] frelling-tralk.livejournal.com
We were discussing the Lexana build-up on a fan thread recently, and having a good time reminising on favouite season 1 moments. And now it's like I can't even bring myself to feel happy about that, and continue with the discussion. Because ultimately it was all a build-up to Lana planning to dump Lex on his wedding day with just a note. And kissing Clark, and asking him to run away with her? After all the lies he told to her and Lex, after they both agreed to being well rid of him? HELL NO!

I was in tears last night because even if they did want to bring Clana back, and end the Lexana, they could have treated us with the tiniest bit of respect.

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Date: 2007-03-16 04:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/_touched/
I'm honesty so tired of seeing people lashing out at those of us who didn't enjoy this episode. I just feel like I can't really even do this anymore and I've just recently been made to feel like all of my aggravation with this show, certain episodes, actions on characters parts, and other things - isn't really justified and it was also implied by someone else that I was actually hating on SV.

Well, goddamn. They didn't have to wait on their ship for five years, and then have it turn back around to the Clana. Fuck, I can't help the way that I feel. It was wrong and A&M were misleading and they lied. I've learned from the days of Buffy, (re: Tara's death and things said by writers/Joss/others/SDK in interviews), that lying is "not" a necessity, but it's actually a freaking "choice".

And now, I can't even enjoy the good things about my ship, because it led up to all of this. And we won't even get into how I now feel about Chloe and Martha - and that's what hurts me even more. Those were characters to actually "grew" to love in certain ways or another - and now, after last night's episode I am really finding it hard to look at them and try to keep the love and respect that I had for them lately in my heart.

All I see is this Clana crap and all of the fans getting pissed on and then others shouting hallelujah and they're acting like we don't have the right to be upset at all and we're just all out to bash SV with a new form of bashing - hell, it's what I basically got told in another comment.

I hate people.

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Date: 2007-03-16 08:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] frelling-tralk.livejournal.com
All I see is this Clana crap and all of the fans getting pissed on and then others shouting hallelujah and they're acting like we don't have the right to be upset at all and we're just all out to bash SV with a new form of bashing - hell, it's what I basically got told in another comment.

I hate people.


I visited Steven Deknight's blog, for I don't know why, and the gloating going on there made me ill. And then saying that other fans are acting the same as they once did, when it's not the same at all. Clana broke up in Hypnotic/Reckonning, and then after Vessel, and all through season 6, some shippers were in the blog all of the time shitting on the show, whilst boasting that they never watched. How is that the same as people expressing disappointment in an episode that they just watched? It's not.

And I don't remember any Lexana shipper shouting to the fans "eat it", or invading a shipper board for Clana, just so they could cackle about enjoy the kisses our couple are getting. It's disgusting the way that some people think they can behave

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Date: 2007-03-17 03:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/_touched/
You're much braver than I am, because I haven't even done that yet. To be honest, I thought about it - but, I didn't. And I'd like to know how the hell we're acting the same way that the Clana fans did after, "Reckoning" - because, really I haven't seen that.

They *didn't* do to Clana what they did to Lexana and this is a completely different thing entirely. See, this is why I cannot stand people all together. This is why I don't even bother with the message boards, the myspaces, or even some of the forums, for shit like this.

*hugs*

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Date: 2007-03-16 07:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kpjmm.livejournal.com
I'm crushed too and totally basically given up every hope I've had.

This show has more than just Clana fans. Lex and Lana fans have been very patient to even wait for Lex and Lana be together. This relationship has been reduced to nothing more than a FOTW plot with Lex Luthor as FOTW (and a pathetic one at that). I want the Lex Luthor back from the start of this season! He is gone and replaced by only a shadow of himself.

The creators basically gave us a 'We don't give a damn what you think' to us Lex and Lana fans.

As for Lana, I really don't care that much any more. I don't even get what she is even around, but to totally destroy Lex Luthor.

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Date: 2007-03-16 02:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] frelling-tralk.livejournal.com
I just hope that ratings drop badly after Promise.

And I'm not impressed with their excuses either on the network pushing things on them. You can't have the courage of your convictions when you're the highest rated show on the CW, and tell the network to back off? Of course they could have done that! I do sympathie when Steven DeKnight mentioned showrunners obscuring the path because obviously the Goughlar are his bosses, and he has to do what they they say. But Al and Miles have no testicles whatsoever to do this after they practically danced on Clana's grave last season, and how it was "over forever". Well even before that, after season 3 there was this interview in Dreamwatch:

"Clark and Lana just went from the couple that made you think God I hope they get together to the couple that left you asking yourself God, why are we still talking about them".

Al Gough, 2004



So I don't believe for a second that they wanted this. I think they just fall in line with whatever the network requests, and how can I care about a show like that. At least when Buffy and Angel frustrated me, I still had the sense of there being someone with an overall creative vision for the show. All SV has is network bosses thinking what will bring in the most advertising money

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Date: 2007-03-16 01:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] frelling-tralk.livejournal.com
I feel like the worlds biggest dumbass right now. I know a lot of people were wary of embracing the Lexana because of fears that it would end up with Lex in unrequited love with Lana, and poor little victim Lana. And there was me assuring everyone that Wither and Vessel points to interesting things being planned with Lana's character.

Nope, she and Clark are both going to go right back to mooning at one another at the barn, and it's going to be victim Lana being caught in Clark's arms again. Lana kicking ass alongside Lex's side in Lockdown and Sneeze, well I guess that never happened.


Gosh it's nice to see that Superman's moral fibre was inherent in him right from the start.

He was also dreaming of stabbing Lex on the wedding day. Oh and saying that watchinghis ex getting married would be the worst day of his life, never mind that his father DIED last year, shouldn't that count as a worst day? Whatever

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Date: 2007-03-16 09:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vivamexico.livejournal.com
This show, the collective of writers, producers, and executives, have no respect for their audience. None.

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Date: 2007-03-16 02:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] frelling-tralk.livejournal.com
I certaintly didn't feel very respected last night

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Date: 2007-03-16 08:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sadface.livejournal.com
Well, I for one, have been very upset at the lack of Clana this season. I mean, it's just not on having interesting characters and different storylines. FOR SHAME, SMALLVILLE.

Image

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Date: 2007-03-16 08:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] frelling-tralk.livejournal.com
Aww, thank you *hugs back*

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Date: 2007-03-17 10:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sum1-different.livejournal.com
["Lana dumping Lex by letter. On his wedding day. When he gave her so much time to consider the proposal. Being blackmailed into the marriage, and crying at the alter. They can't even give us love and kissing in a Lexana wedding episode, no it's Clana who are the ones kissing and planning to run away together"]

This seriously happened? Wow, I wonder what'll happen after that.

And more clana? STILL? After everything? Jeez, can't they get over that ship?

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Date: 2007-03-18 03:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] frelling-tralk.livejournal.com
And just last season, Lana was giving Lex a speech about he's been abandoned and betrayed so many times, and she won't be next.

Then she plans to leave him standing in the alter, and come back to a note. A NOTE! She couldn't sit him down before the ceremony and gently talk to him how she was feeling, no she was going to fuck him over almost as bad as Lionel ever did. And that was after Lex gave Lana a speech in Hydro on fearing that no one would ever love him, and Lana gives his life hope and meaning *bursts into angry tears all over again*


There's absolutely no way I'm buying the season 6 DVDs now. I'm telling everyone I know not to bother watching Smallville season 6 when it starts airing in England. All they care about is the Clana fans. Just recently SDK is promising them cool Clana, Al Gough urges them to keep watching. And any Lexana questions we put to them (in Tv Guide and SDK's blog), we seriously may as well not bother for all the response we get. And now they have ruined their entire show for Clana.

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Date: 2007-03-20 03:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] withafireinside.livejournal.com
I was thinking about that too. I really wanted the DVDs because there's so much about this season that I really loved: "Zod", the Green Arrow episodes, Jimmy, "Crimson" Clois, and early-season Lexana. Plus, I heard they're trying to get Kevin Smith and some other comic writers to do episode commentaries. But dammit, that wedding sucked balls, and they totally trashed my couple. I don't think there's a way I can get the DVDs while still giving the finger to Al & Miles. My fear is that we'll most likely get a Clana cover. I've had that feeling for a while, and now I think it'll really happen. That'll probably cement my decision not to get it. No use in wasting money for half a seasons worth of episodes anyway.

err

Date: 2007-03-17 11:46 pm (UTC)
ender24: (Default)
From: [personal profile] ender24
so sorry for you.
ship lionel/chloe with me ?

yup :D

Date: 2007-03-18 12:02 am (UTC)
ender24: (Default)
From: [personal profile] ender24
have seen , and I am just behind you with my comment :D
after all, I am watching the clionel lj com as well.

I might plan to write a rec at the roundtable for this fanmix along with the fics by ladyoneill...but damn, I still have so many clex fics, that I promised to rec...grrr. never enough time :D

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Date: 2007-04-01 04:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bigbadwolfeboro.livejournal.com
*offers her shoulder*

While I don't follow Smallville all that much, I can empathise. Fortunately, with my current fandoms, the only shipping going on that I don't care for has been all fanfic and not cannon... Even if I see something I don't like, I ignore it rather than be nasty and telling folks they're wrong or whatever. While I'm far from perfect, I do wish others would take this approach of "If you can't say something nice then say nothing."

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Date: 2007-04-21 03:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] frelling-tralk.livejournal.com
*hugs* Thank you :) Lexana and Clois fans are getting together to do a charity thing now as well, and there were even people invading that thread to whine that it was copying Clana fans.

Unbelievable