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Steven Moffat Denies John Barrowman's Hint That He's Holding Up More Torchwood


Oh dear. For years since Torchwood came to a close with Miracle Day, John Barrowman has been a diehard advocate of bringing the Doctor Who spinoff back—but his latest statements about the show have landed him in some hot water with outgoing Doctor Who showrunner Steven Moffat.


Barrowman has been kicking up a storm about trying to get Torchwood back on the air, telling any outlet he can that he’s been talking to BBC executives about the show or that his Arrow producers would be totally fine with him filming a new season of Torchwood or a Doctor Who cameo as Captain Jack. However, recent comments he made got a bit more inflammatory, heavily implying at a panel at the Honolulu Comic Con last month that one person on the Doctor Who team, soon to depart the series, was stopping Torchwood’s comeback:


Without giving too much information away, I was on a phone call with one of our executive producers, telling me the obstacles we’d have to face in order to bring [Torchwood] back. And I don’t like to see obstacles, because my feeling is that it’s a good show and it deserves to come back. And being told that it can’t until it’s got approval with certain people involved with Doctor Who...

I don’t understand why one show has to have the approval of another in order to come back. But that might change when somebody leaves.


Naturally, critics of Moffat’s time on Doctor Who were keen to believe that Moffat was also stopping a fan-favorite character from making a return either on the show or through Torchwood, presumably while he cackled maniacally and twiddled a sinister moustache he’d grown for the occasion.

But the backlash apparently got so bad that Moffat has now had to release a statement (via Doctor Who News) telling angry Torchwood fans to back off:


You may be aware that John Barrowman has been saying, publicly, that I’ve been blocking a new series of Torchwood. To be very clear—I haven’t blocked it; I wouldn’t block it; I wouldn’t even be ABLE to block it. I didn’t even know a revival had been mooted till I read about it on the Internet. As John perfectly well knows, it’s not my show and I could no more prevent it happening that he could cancel Sherlock. I am bewildered, and a little cross, even to be included in this conversation.

For the record, I really liked the show (especially the third series) and would be very happy to see more - monsters and mayhem, why not? But the fact is, it has nothing to do with me. Please pass this on to the anxious and the angry - I’ve had enough hate mail now.


Probably not the best idea to engender ill will with the person currently heading up the show you’re eager to cameo on, but there we go. If there is someone at the BBC trying to hold back a return of Torchwood, it’s not Steven Moffat.




Well this all seems a bit awkward! I'm not John Barrowman's biggest fan frankly, but I can understand why he's so frustrated at the BBC seeming to have forgotten Torchwood. It always seemed to do very well in the ratings, so it is a bit puzzling why they just stopped making it. Blaming Steven Moffat is a stretch through, it seems more likely to be because Chris Chibnall and Russell T. Davis have other stuff going on now, and they were the original executive producers?

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Date: 2016-09-14 06:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/_profiterole_/
I never even saw the US season. I'm not here for shows full of Bury Your Gays (in the umbrella sense of the word, since they were all bi).
Edited Date: 2016-09-14 06:50 pm (UTC)

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Date: 2016-09-14 07:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] frelling-tralk.livejournal.com
Oh I didn't watch that one either, I was left not caring very much after they killed off Tosh, Owen, and Ianto :( But still I can see John Barrowman's point that there doesn't seem to be any real reason why Torchwood isn't treated as a bigger deal by the BBC. It always seemed to be a big ratings success, Children Of Earth was moved to BBC1 and did massively well for them, yet there was even a two year gap after that

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Date: 2016-09-14 07:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/_profiterole_/
Well, they're doing Class instead and hopefully the LGBT characters will stay alive this time.

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Date: 2016-09-14 07:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] frelling-tralk.livejournal.com
Are you planning on watching that one then? :)

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Date: 2016-09-14 07:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/_profiterole_/
Probably. I need to see a trailer first. I never watched The Sarah Jane Adventures because it was more for kids, but I feel like Class will be more for teens/YA, so that could work for me.

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Date: 2016-09-14 07:55 pm (UTC)
endeni: (Default)
From: [personal profile] endeni
Goodness the last season was terrible, terrible, so good choice there...
And yes, that scene was heartbreaking and frustrating so I get your anger...

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Date: 2016-09-14 07:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] frelling-tralk.livejournal.com
My flist definitely didn't seem very impressed with Miracle Day from what I remember!

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Date: 2016-09-14 06:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bm-shipper.livejournal.com
For me Torchwood died with Ianto one way or another, I never even finished "Children of Earth", so I don't really care at all, but I mean: BBC "cancelled" or rather ended "Musketeers" as well even though there would have been more stories to tell and the ratings were good, so there's that...

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Date: 2016-09-14 07:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] frelling-tralk.livejournal.com
Yeah I was done after Children Of Earth too, not just for Ianto's death (although that really really sucked), but it also pretty much irredeemably ruined Jack's character for me as well. It was a good mini-series, it just left me with no interest in following Jack's character any more after that, especially with all of the regular cast dead as well

It just seems odd to me because TW always more than held its own in the ratings, COE especially reached their biggest audience yet, so I can understand why John Barrowman is questioning what the hold-up is. I suppose you're right that you never really know why these decisions are made though

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Date: 2016-09-14 07:57 pm (UTC)
endeni: (Default)
From: [personal profile] endeni
/For me Torchwood died with Ianto/ - Yes! Like, theoretically I'd be all for more Torchwood, loved the hell out of the show, but with half the cast dead would it be Torchwood anymore? Because season 4 clearly wasn't it despite their best efforts... :(

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Date: 2016-09-14 08:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] frelling-tralk.livejournal.com
Yeah I remember that series 4 was pretty much promoted as a US reboot, they can never really get back the original feel of the show from series 1 and 2 at this point. Children Of Earth was already a pretty radical change

They should never have killed off so many members of the core cast...

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Date: 2016-09-14 08:09 pm (UTC)
endeni: (Default)
From: [personal profile] endeni
Well, they were pretty dramatic deaths and made for good tv but, well, you can't have your cake and eat it too, right? I mean, it's sci-fi so they could always find a way around the death thing in order to bring everybody back, like comic-books do all the time, but I'm afraid it would just look ridiculous... *sighs*

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Date: 2016-09-15 07:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] frelling-tralk.livejournal.com
Well, they were pretty dramatic deaths and made for good tv but, well, you can't have your cake and eat it too, right?

Exactly, at the time it seemed like they surely must have been planning to bring the show to a dramatic close, it seems a bizarre choice otherwise to not consider how it would impact on the show to kill Ianto off as well, after they'd already lost Tosh and Owen. TW's appeal was never Jack and Gwen alone

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Date: 2016-09-15 07:49 pm (UTC)
endeni: (Default)
From: [personal profile] endeni
/TW's appeal was never Jack and Gwen alone/ - Yep, which is why Miracle Day didn't work for me...

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Date: 2016-09-14 08:15 pm (UTC)
endeni: (Default)
From: [personal profile] endeni
Also, I did love CoE, it crushed my heart to itty-bitty pieces and left me curled in a corner busy with ugly sobbing but it was a really well crafted show, or so I thought. The bit with Gwen talking about why the Doctor sometimes doesn't intervenes and that she thinks he just turns around in shame, the whole way they framed her face when she's reciting her speech, all stark shadows and light... *_* And the actors did a *terrific* job, Capaldi especially.

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Date: 2016-09-15 07:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] frelling-tralk.livejournal.com
COE was very powerful drama definitely, but honestly it did feel to me a bit like a drama that RTD was already interested in telling as its own mini-series, and then he just grafted it on to the TW characters

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Date: 2016-09-15 07:29 pm (UTC)
yourlibrarian: Angel and Lindsey (Default)
From: [personal profile] yourlibrarian
Oh did they? Glad I saw that as I'd been wondering when Musketeers would return.

I gather the U.S. Torchwood season didn't do well, though I liked it well enough. Maybe that's the reason there's not much interest in financing it, a belief that the fandom doesn't really care about seeing more of it.

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Date: 2016-09-15 07:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] frelling-tralk.livejournal.com
It wasn't popular with the critics, but the actual ratings were pretty decent I think? Well in the UK at least, I'm not sure how it did in the US, that might make a difference as I believe it was a US network that funded the last series

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Date: 2016-09-15 08:06 pm (UTC)
yourlibrarian: Angel and Lindsey (Default)
From: [personal profile] yourlibrarian
Oh that's interesting to know. I can't be certain any more but I think it wasn't very successful here, and yes, it was some sort of U.S. funded efforts.

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Date: 2016-09-14 07:29 pm (UTC)
elisi: Edwin and Charles (Torchwood yeah! by lay_of_luthien)
From: [personal profile] elisi
Well, Miracle Day was crap. :(

But yes, it was always Chibnall & RTD's baby, so it'd be up to them. Maybe Barrowman meant to imply that once Moffat leaves Chibnall takes over, and then *he* might push for more Torchwood?

Who knows. Mostly I feel sorry for Moffat, he doesn't need the added hate.

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Date: 2016-09-14 07:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] frelling-tralk.livejournal.com
Honestly I wondered if John Barrowman was making a dig at Steven Moffat because of not being back on DW since he's been in charge, he obviously enjoyed playing the character and seemed annoyed in the past about not being invited back for the 50th anniversary celebrations, maybe he's decided that Steven Moffat has something against the character? But it seems bizarre to imply that Moffat would have any reason to block Torchwood as a show

It probably is mostly just a case of RTD being too busy, and I suppose that the BBC don't want to commission any more TW without him

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Date: 2016-09-14 09:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] eowyn.livejournal.com
I wish people would stop blaming Moffat for everything. The way he's treated by fandom is practically bullying.

Not cool, Barrowman. :/

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Date: 2016-09-15 06:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] frelling-tralk.livejournal.com
Yeah DW fandom has a real problem with attacking the executive producers :(

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Date: 2016-09-15 01:01 am (UTC)
cookiegirl: (Jack *blogs*)
From: [personal profile] cookiegirl
Oh John. He does say some ridiculous things and doesn't always help himself. I was such a huge JB fan at one point, but not so much now.

I'd still love to see Torchwood return though, and I agree it's odd the BBC doesn't follow up on such a good show.

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Date: 2016-09-15 06:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] frelling-tralk.livejournal.com
Yeah I used to really like him when he first appeared on DW, but since then I've been a bit put off by him tbh with some of the stories coming from the set, he just comes across as really full of himself.... It would be nice to see Captain Jack again at some point though

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Date: 2016-09-15 08:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] denorios.livejournal.com
I stopped watching when Ianto died, never bothered with the American 'Miracle Day' series. To be honest, I liked Torchwood when it was daft and fun and ridiculous and gay as all get-out - I didn't want it to go dark and gritty. I liked it when they were all just running around Cardiff fighting aliens, being utter failures at a secret organisations and shagging each other silly, and the whole show was beyond daft. That was my Torchwood.

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Date: 2016-09-15 06:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] frelling-tralk.livejournal.com
I know what you mean, even Children Of Earth never really felt like Torchwood, killing off all of the supporting cast really made it impossible to continue TW in its original format

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Date: 2016-09-16 05:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] davesmusictank.livejournal.com
Poor old Moffat gets blamed for everything. I understand Barrowman's frustration too but that should be aimed at the BBC.

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Date: 2016-09-16 10:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] frelling-tralk.livejournal.com
Yeah it seems odd to throw complaints Moffat's way, it's really down to the BBC and RTD to write more Torchwood

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Date: 2016-09-16 11:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mfirefly10.livejournal.com
I don't know if there were behind the scenes issues, but I suspect the main reason they never brought it back is because Miracle Day was awful. And I do mean AWFUL. It was one of the worst things I've ever seen and killed any lingering love I had for the show.

Then again, I was of the mind that it was a terrible idea from the start. The show did not need to continue after Children of Earth. They could've given Gwen/Eve Myles her own spinoff with a whole new cast, but they should've never done more Torchwood.

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Date: 2016-09-16 03:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] frelling-tralk.livejournal.com
Definitely, if they wanted to continue the show as Torchwood then they should have at the very least kept Ianto around after COE, instead the message always seemed to be that they were more interested in going out with a bang back then. Trying to bring it back with a new supporting cast in a new setting just didn't appeal to me

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Date: 2016-09-19 03:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] giallarhorn.livejournal.com
Miracle Day had a really interesting premise, but was weird starting up after CoE and ultimately...kind of ended up being just weird.

That said, I know that RTD took a leave because of his partner's illness, and Moffat was showrunner for this entire time and never once mentioned Jack in the stories, so it might've been an easy shot to take?

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Date: 2016-09-19 12:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] frelling-tralk.livejournal.com
Yeah that was my first thought definitely, it sounds like the real reason that there's been no more Torchwood is because RTD doesn't really have time for it right now, but it's just easier to point the finger at Moffat and imply that he has something against the character. I'm pretty sure John Barrowman commented in the past about not understanding why Moffat didn't bring Jack back to Doctor Who for the 50th anniversary celebrations?

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Date: 2016-09-20 03:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] giallarhorn.livejournal.com
Yeah, the 50th...was a very strange affair, tbqh. Plot aside, there's a lot of noticeable absences aside from Jack (cough Eccleston cough) when it would've been an excellent choice to do so?

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Date: 2016-09-20 01:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] frelling-tralk.livejournal.com
I think that Chris Eccleston's absence was just because he wasn't interested, I believe that Steven Moffat did meet up with him to try and convince him to take part :(

I can understand why Moffat didn't want to include all of the older Doctor's and make it too much of a nostalgiafest, but I must admit I was a bit surprised that he didn't include any of the past companions where the ageing of the actors could be explained in a more natural way. It just seemed like Moffat was focused on telling a proper story with the Time War first and foremost I suppose, rather than having a ton of cameo's. If Chris had agreed to take part, as was presumedly the original plan, then there probably would have been less criticism from the fans, because then it would have been the three Doctor's from the modern series working together for the first time. That would have felt suitably epic, as well as Billie Piper and Tom Baker's appearances, so that would have been considered celebratory enough perhaps, but instead viewers focused on how there should have been more nods to the past than just David and Billie. I wonder why Moffat didn't at least consider using the 8th Doctor when Chris Eccleston wasn't available, instead of introducing a brand new Doctor with John Hurt
Edited Date: 2016-09-20 01:01 pm (UTC)