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Okay this new writer is awesome, that's two fabulous episodes in a row now, can we keep him, please? <3

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I loved that the Doctor and Clara switched roles this episode! The Doctor getting to see himself through Clara's eyes and being disturbed at how easily she switched into pragmatic saving the world mode, being bothered that she was merely triumphant at the end and forgot all about the innocent people that she couldn't save, so for once the Doctor has to be the one to bring them up. I thought it was interesting that he refused to praise her for being an exceptional Doctor, "Goodness had nothing to do with it", which would fit with Peter Capaldi's Doctor worrying about whether he is a good man and looking to Clara to be his moral compass, and so obviously being disquieted to now recognise that instead he's been influencing Clara into acting more like him. (It seems like they're following a similar theme to series 2 of DW with Jackie worrying about Rose turning into the Doctor and becoming too similar to him, only this time it's the Doctor himself worrying about it)

But still how awesome was Doctor Oswin in general, I loved seeing her taking charge and kicking ass!

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And Rigsy made for a fabulous companion, I'd love if he were to ever return

All of the visuals effects were very cool, I loved the mileage they got out of the shrinking Tardis with the Doctor's face peering out or his hand coming through heh, mostly I just want to do the tumblr thing and keep on posting gifs from this episode XD

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Aww I'm sad that making icons seems to have fallen out of favour since fandom fled for tumblr (at least I haven't seen many icon posts since DW came back), how cool an icon would that make!

And I'm not so into the Missy hints any more tbh, I loved her first appearance when I was hoping that she was the Master, but since then her appearances have been so brief that I'm just hoping they start doing something with that plot thread now and move past the set-up stage already. It seems like she's supposed to have some kind of relationship to Clara?

And I'm still not sure what to make of Clara feeling the need to lie to Danny when there seems to be no point to it at all but, judging by next weeks preview involving Danny travelling with the Doctor, I guessing that means that it's all coming to a head soon?
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Date: 2014-10-20 02:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/_profiterole_/
It was a great episode and I'm loving this season very much! ^__^

The gifs are awesome. Very The Thing from The Addams Family or a hermit crab or something! XDDD

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Date: 2014-10-20 02:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] frelling-tralk.livejournal.com
Heh yes, very Addams Family!

This new writer really has done a great job of deconstructing the Doctor, I've liked Peter Capaldi's Doctor from the first, but it's with these past two episodes that I've started really loving his Doctor

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Date: 2014-10-20 02:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/_profiterole_/
Yes, I feel this season is very meta. That's an interesting take they're going with.

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Date: 2014-10-20 02:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] frelling-tralk.livejournal.com
:nods: For once with Moffat it feels like the arc has very much been pushed into the background, we haven't seen a lot of whatever's going on with Missy at all. This series has been much more focused around what sort of a man the Doctor is, and whether his relationship with Clara is good for her. My only wish is that I didn't find Danny quite so bland, but I suppose that we can't have it all *g*

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Date: 2014-10-20 02:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/_profiterole_/
I don't find Danny bland, but I think we don't see him enough, especially in the last two episodes.

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Date: 2014-10-20 02:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] frelling-tralk.livejournal.com
I just haven't been able to get into his character at all so far :( I liked him okay in his first intro, but since then I just don't feel like he brings that much to the show or to Clara, still next week should be a good opportunity for his character to grow on me as he will apparently be travelling with the Doctor for the first time

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Date: 2014-10-20 02:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/_profiterole_/
Yeah, I'm excited about him being a lot in the episode next week. He was a lot in "The Caretaker" too, but there was no travel, so it wasn't as exciting.

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Date: 2014-10-20 07:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bm-shipper.livejournal.com
I seriously wish I had more time to do some icons, but at the moment I just don't :/ That's the "bad thing" about having a job, but everything else is good *lol* Either way: I completely agree with you about basically everything and I totally loved that episode SO much...

Although yes, I agree, the doctor WAS worried that Clara might become too much like him and I thought maybe HE is the one "sending her away" at some point because he doesn't want that, I don't know...

The scene with the hand was so funny. Looked like a crab or something like that XD I had to laugh so loud when that happened :D

As for Missy: Since she called the Doctor her boyfriend in 8x01 she seems to have some kind of relationship to both - Clara AND the doctor. People seem to think she's River, but I doubt that becaues River called the Doctor always her husband, didn't she? This is confusing. And she can't be his daughter either, because then calling him her boyfriend would be quite disturbing... I really hope, we'll find out at least by the end of the Season.

I'm glad btw. that the Doctor wasn't really happy with Clara lying to Danny either ;)

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Date: 2014-10-20 08:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] frelling-tralk.livejournal.com
Yeah it's too bad, I remember how active the icon communities used to be, but I haven't found icons to snag since any of my shows have come back. It does seem to be a dying trend now that fandom is on Tumblr and more about the gifs :(

And lol yes, it was such a cute visual with the hand rolling the Tardis along, and quite tense too when the train was coming *g*

It should be interesting to see how Danny and the Doctor are around one another next episode, hopefully they will be on better terms as they both feel the same way about Clara feeling the need to lie. (And I'm not a fan of Clara lying, but the phone call with her trying to cover up while she was on that swinging chair was pretty hilarious lol)
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Date: 2014-10-20 08:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] waitingonsunday.livejournal.com
This was such a fun episode. When the very small TARDIS first appeared, my boyfriend and I squeaked, "It's so TI-ny!" at the same time. It never stopped being cute to me.

I love watching Clara kick ass, which she seems to be doing increasingly. I know after two seasons, her time is probably up, but I'm attached to her, dammit, I don't want her to leave. And I want to see more of Danny, whom I really like.

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Date: 2014-10-20 08:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] frelling-tralk.livejournal.com
Heh yes, I loved the writing for this episode, but also the visuals. Clara carrying the miniature Tardis around with her was absolutely adorable *g*

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Date: 2014-10-20 08:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wheatear.livejournal.com
Love the gifs! Agree, this was a great episode and I loved Clara being the Doctor. It was just great to watch her take charge, but also interesting characterization in the way they both reacted to each other.

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Date: 2014-10-20 08:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] frelling-tralk.livejournal.com
It was a great episode for Clara, and yeah I loved how they both switched places and you see how disturbed the Doctor is at the end when Clara is proud and looking for praise on what a good Doctor she made

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Date: 2014-10-20 09:15 pm (UTC)
sabotabby: raccoon anarchy symbol (hand tardis)
From: [personal profile] sabotabby
AHHHH I loved it so much. (Except confirmation that I was wrong irt my Clara/Danny theory last week—ugh does she need to flit between controlling relationships?)

Aww I'm sad that making icons seems to have fallen out of favour since fandom fled for tumblr (at least I haven't seen many icon posts since DW came back), how cool an icon would that make!

HELLO NEW ICON Urgh it does not like my giffage. I shall try again.

Sick of Missy hints, want confrontation between the Doctor and Chris Addison's character now.
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Date: 2014-10-20 09:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] frelling-tralk.livejournal.com
ugh does she need to flit between controlling relationships?

The odd thing is that I don't think we are supposed to view Danny as controlling (although franky I felt that he was leaning that way in Listen and The Caretaker), but lately they have been writing him as seeming pretty chill about Clara not really wanting to give up her travels with the Doctor, so it's baffling to me what Clara's motives are for lying to him. He has never said that he wants her to stop, so why is she treating her travels with the Doctor as a naughty secret exactly?

And yeah I was really intrigued by Missy in her first appearance, but since then I felt like we haven't had enough to go on. I'm hoping they will being all that in as a major plot point soon, enough with the little teases!

ETA Your icon is showing up for me now, very cute! :D
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Date: 2014-10-20 09:39 pm (UTC)
sabotabby: raccoon anarchy symbol (hand tardis)
From: [personal profile] sabotabby
I don't think we're supposed to read Danny as controlling either, but he's coming off that way. That, or we're supposed to believe that Clara, who rather fearlessly and selflessly jumped into a space-time rift to save the Doctor last series, is somehow afraid to tell her boyfriend what she gets up to on the weekend.

[livejournal.com profile] the_axel, with whom I watch this show every week, insists to me that having the companion's motivations lack sense or coherency from episode to episode is a fine Whovian tradition and it has always been so, but I would argue that it is not a good tradition and ought to be stopped. Suppose this goes for both Clara and Danny, but it bothers me more with Clara because she's been around for two seasons so they should be able to write some basic consistent traits for her by now.

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Date: 2014-10-20 09:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] frelling-tralk.livejournal.com
is somehow afraid to tell her boyfriend what she gets up to on the weekend.

I've seen suggestions that it's more about Clara lying to herself when she's feeling some unease over it being a good idea to continue her travels with the Doctor, and so she's using Danny's supposed encouragement of it as a handy excuse, rather than the writers intending for her to come across as afraid to tell Danny that she just likes travelling with the Doctor period

That interpretation makes more sense with what I presume that the writers are going with, but I'm still sort of baffled as to why she needs to bring Danny into it at all and lie to him about what she's actually doing

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Date: 2014-10-20 09:56 pm (UTC)
sabotabby: raccoon anarchy symbol (hand tardis)
From: [personal profile] sabotabby
That's how I was reading it last episode, but if that were the case, why have her lie to Danny?

It just distresses me; she's a million times better than last season, but the inconsistency with her character and her relationship with Danny remain the weak links in an otherwise near-flawless series.

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Date: 2014-10-21 01:20 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tasabian.livejournal.com
Okay this new writer is awesome, that's two fabulous episodes in a row now, can we keep him, please? <3
I love his scripts! He gets my nomination for next showrunner.

Rigsy made for a fabulous companion, I'd love if he were to ever return
He was such a sweetie. I'd love to see him back too.

Clara was completely awesome: enough said. And I love Capaldi's comedy moments and his Big Heroic Stance at the end!

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Date: 2014-10-21 11:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] frelling-tralk.livejournal.com
his Big Heroic Stance at the end!

Oooh yes, I forgot to mention that scene!

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Date: 2014-10-21 02:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] girlwhowaited.livejournal.com
I'm having a really difficult time getting into this new season. I'm re-watching each episode twice and I have no interest. I don't know why and it's frustrating me.

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Date: 2014-10-21 11:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] frelling-tralk.livejournal.com
I've been happy with it because I feel like it's been consistently strong, there hasn't had any episodes that really flopped in the way that past seasons usually have at least one or two clunkers (I guess that shortening the season to 12 episodes helps with that?) I don't know how many truly exceptional episodes or moments there have been though, maybe it's not working for you because it's been more steadily consistent, rather than having more memorable highs and lows?

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Date: 2014-10-21 03:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] place-to-hide.livejournal.com
I did think this episode was better than a lot of the episodes I've seen so far.

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Date: 2014-10-21 11:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] frelling-tralk.livejournal.com
I've really enjoyed both of his episodes :)

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Date: 2014-10-21 08:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] place-to-hide.livejournal.com
Yeah. They were good. I love the whole, "do the Addams family thing with the hand." haha.

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Date: 2014-10-22 01:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] frelling-tralk.livejournal.com
That was one of my favourite moments *g*

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Date: 2014-10-23 03:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] frelling-tralk.livejournal.com
Basically any moment with the teeny-tiny Tardis was my fav :D

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Date: 2014-10-21 09:42 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] kazzy-cee.livejournal.com
Hmmm - maybe I could make some icons....

I shall see what I can do!

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Date: 2014-10-21 11:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] frelling-tralk.livejournal.com
Looking forward to them!