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I'm starting to get confused when I keep reading statements like Season 1 and 2 were all about Sam and his psychic abilities
What is the big deal about the myth arc that people keep discussing, and how finally Dean has a role in the show now with season 4 and the angel plot. I just don't follow that reasoning at all. You'd think the whole show had been focused around Sam and his emerging powers, when actually his psychic powers were dropped after the first half of season 1, and the psychic kids were written out by the end of season 2 (and I believe the writers talked about writing out the psychic kids so quickly because they got bored of that storyline, so yeah sounds like a hugely big deal for the show all right). I may be remembering wrong, but I think that Nightmares was the only episode to deal with other psychic children for season 1. And then Simon Said, Hunted, and All Hell Breaks Loose Part one were three episodes that dealt with the supposed all-important myth arc and the psychic kids in any great detail. How does that equal seasons 1 and 2 being all about that?
In fact the core of the show was always about dealing with family, and the brotherly interaction was the main focus from the beginning. Even the hunt for the YED came directly back to family, what with avenging their mother/seeing through their father's quest for revenge at his wifes death. Dean's storylines might have been more about his daddy issues and wanting to protect his brother, rather than the "myth arc", but does that mean that his character was less important even when most of the show revolves around family and the brothers relationship?
Sure season 2 had Sam angsting over the possibility of turning evil, but there was just as much angst for Dean's character in terms of wanting to save his brother, and feeling burdened by that last request that his father made of him. Not to mention the guilt over his father's deal. And Dean's issues over John's death were what I was actually most interested in in early season 2, whether it is was part of the myth arc or not doesn't make it any less gripping. Fans discussed moments like say Dean smashing up the Impala over John's death just as much as they talked about Sam's asking his brother to kill him when the time comes/what could it all mean for him. And Dean's episodes like What Is And What Should Never Be, dealing with Dean's sacrifices and his need for family, were just as big a deal for fandom as Born Under a Bad Sign with evil Sam. It's not like one episode or one arc comes out as more important than the other, just different! From the way some people apparently see it you'd think Dean wasn't a fully-fleshed out character with his own complex issues, but that his only role for the first two years was holding Sammy's hand
What is the big deal about the myth arc that people keep discussing, and how finally Dean has a role in the show now with season 4 and the angel plot. I just don't follow that reasoning at all. You'd think the whole show had been focused around Sam and his emerging powers, when actually his psychic powers were dropped after the first half of season 1, and the psychic kids were written out by the end of season 2 (and I believe the writers talked about writing out the psychic kids so quickly because they got bored of that storyline, so yeah sounds like a hugely big deal for the show all right). I may be remembering wrong, but I think that Nightmares was the only episode to deal with other psychic children for season 1. And then Simon Said, Hunted, and All Hell Breaks Loose Part one were three episodes that dealt with the supposed all-important myth arc and the psychic kids in any great detail. How does that equal seasons 1 and 2 being all about that?
In fact the core of the show was always about dealing with family, and the brotherly interaction was the main focus from the beginning. Even the hunt for the YED came directly back to family, what with avenging their mother/seeing through their father's quest for revenge at his wifes death. Dean's storylines might have been more about his daddy issues and wanting to protect his brother, rather than the "myth arc", but does that mean that his character was less important even when most of the show revolves around family and the brothers relationship?
Sure season 2 had Sam angsting over the possibility of turning evil, but there was just as much angst for Dean's character in terms of wanting to save his brother, and feeling burdened by that last request that his father made of him. Not to mention the guilt over his father's deal. And Dean's issues over John's death were what I was actually most interested in in early season 2, whether it is was part of the myth arc or not doesn't make it any less gripping. Fans discussed moments like say Dean smashing up the Impala over John's death just as much as they talked about Sam's asking his brother to kill him when the time comes/what could it all mean for him. And Dean's episodes like What Is And What Should Never Be, dealing with Dean's sacrifices and his need for family, were just as big a deal for fandom as Born Under a Bad Sign with evil Sam. It's not like one episode or one arc comes out as more important than the other, just different! From the way some people apparently see it you'd think Dean wasn't a fully-fleshed out character with his own complex issues, but that his only role for the first two years was holding Sammy's hand
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Date: 2009-08-20 06:11 am (UTC)Yes, yes and yes again. I do NOT get how 'Sam-fans' and 'Dean-fans' can divvy up the show and fucking argue over this ridiculous non-topic. Those kinds of 'wahhhh Dean (Sam) is totally being ignored! It's totally the Dean (Sam) show!' make me even more embarrassed for SPN fandom than I usually have to be.
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Date: 2009-08-20 06:32 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2009-08-20 11:00 am (UTC)It'll never end, I'm sure. Even after the show goes off the air, they'll fire up their DVDs and keep complaining.
*sighs*
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Date: 2009-08-20 06:41 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2009-08-20 01:17 pm (UTC)This is the Winchester story. And neither brother is more important that the other. If SPN show's anything about them, it's that Sam and Dean are equally important both to each other and the overall story/plot.
People are lame.
THAT isn't to say I'm disappointed in Sam or that I think Dean cries way too much now. But I guess I'll allow that hell might do that to a person. ;)
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Date: 2009-08-20 06:47 pm (UTC)Same. I only started catching up with the show and the fandom in season 4 and it amazed me all the wank that could still happen, even when there's only two main characters people still just have to find one of them to bash *eyeroll*
I think Dean cries way too much now.
Aww poor Dean *g* I never thought it was that excessive, but it did feel kind of redundant when they gave him another crying roadside scene in Family Remains, but then I didn't really care for episode anyway. It kind of took away from the impact of Heaven And Hell's ending to have something so similar to end the very next episode
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Date: 2009-08-20 04:41 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2009-08-20 06:50 pm (UTC)Lately I've noticed this assumption that seasons 1 and 2 were more Sam's show and Dean was the sidekick, and that is the most ridiculous thing to me.
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Date: 2009-08-20 09:52 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2009-08-20 09:55 pm (UTC)I try to avoid the bashing when I can, but I do want to discuss the show so it's hard to avoid coming across the bashing
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Date: 2009-08-20 07:07 pm (UTC)Mmmm, not really. There are the rabid John haters and the rabid John supporters.
Hey it's SPN fandom :-)
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Date: 2009-08-20 09:56 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2009-08-22 04:14 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2009-08-22 04:13 am (UTC)Truthfully, I've become more of a Castiel girl, though.
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Date: 2009-08-27 12:48 am (UTC)