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frelling_tralk ([personal profile] frelling_tralk) wrote2015-01-13 12:45 pm

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"The WB 20th anniversary: Ranking all 32 of the network's dramas from worst to best "

I thoroughly approve of Buffy, Dawson's Creek, and Gilmore Girls being the top three <3 And hmm Felicity is #4, I never actually watched that show, but I've been wondering lately if it might be worth checking out as a lot of people seem to like it? There have been soooo many high-school based shows, it might be a nice change of pace to watch one focused on the college years for a change :P (Oh and Angel is #5, Smallville is #6, Roswell is #10, and Supernatural is #11)

[identity profile] verdande-mi.livejournal.com 2015-01-13 03:35 pm (UTC)(link)
I remember loving Felicity when it aired in Norway back in the day, and I've been wanting to check it out again actually. I'm currenly re-watching Angel and its a good as I remember :) Roswell was another show I really liked, but I don't believe I watched all of it.

[identity profile] infinitewhale.livejournal.com 2015-01-13 03:39 pm (UTC)(link)

I kinda wanna rewatch DC but I refuse to buy those DVDs with the different soundtrack (wonder if they ever got that sorted) and original airing rips are non existent, it seems. :(

[identity profile] frelling-tralk.livejournal.com 2015-01-13 03:50 pm (UTC)(link)
Ugh yes, it physically pains me to rewatch some of those re-edited scenes, (and Roswell suffers from the same changes), with season 2 especially I found the song changes really distracting at certain moments. It doesn't look like they're ever going to get the original versions out at this point though :sighs:
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[identity profile] frelling-tralk.livejournal.com 2015-01-13 03:59 pm (UTC)(link)
I rewatched Roswell a year or so ago out of nostalgia, and honestly I found that season 2 wasn't nearly as good as I remembered (the Sci Fi arcs they tried for that year seem so badly-done in retrospect), but I still have fond memories of that first season. It's odd that they struggled so much with the sci fi though, Ron Moore obviously knew his stuff enough with BSG that it seems like season 2 should have been awesome when he joined the staff, but every time they reached for more sci fi in Roswell it just always seemed so messy idk.

I felt like the core of the show should have continued with putting the human element first, not sending Max off to New York for alien summits, or the clones of the 'Royal Four' turning up XD
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[identity profile] infinitewhale.livejournal.com 2015-01-13 04:02 pm (UTC)(link)

Freakin' Sony. I'm glad they got hacked!

[identity profile] frelling-tralk.livejournal.com 2015-01-13 04:08 pm (UTC)(link)
Hee, yep! It wasn't so bad with the first season, I didn't notice any changes that stood out to me there, but omg getting to season 2 was the worst. They changed the 'kiss the rain' song over Dawson and Joey's make-up kiss in the rain, they changed 'when we dance' playing during Pacey and Andie's farewell dance, they changed 'jealous' playing in the background of Dawson starting to come to his realisation of how unhappy Joey is in the finale :smashes things:

[identity profile] bm-shipper.livejournal.com 2015-01-13 09:11 pm (UTC)(link)
Seriously, I haven't seen a single show that is listed after #11... I know some by name, but I've never watched any of it...

used to love ROSWELL and CHARMED so much. Own both on DVD and they will always be special for me :)

Don't care or haven't watched either of the others too :P

[identity profile] frelling-tralk.livejournal.com 2015-01-13 09:38 pm (UTC)(link)
I did watch Savannah back in the 90's when it was airing over here on ITV lol, but otherwise I'm not familiar with any show after #11 either

Charmed I never watched, but yep it was definitely one of the landmark shows for the WB

[identity profile] cinderella81.livejournal.com 2015-01-14 02:19 am (UTC)(link)
Gosh I didn't even remember some of these shows! But Young Americans ... I wish that had gone longer. And Popular was totally my jam. Makes me happy to see Buffy in the top spot and to see Angel in the top 5 *nods*

[identity profile] frelling-tralk.livejournal.com 2015-01-14 04:08 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm also not familiar with a lot of shows from the bottom half of the list

And it was definitely good to see Bts as #1 :D

[identity profile] heavenly44.livejournal.com 2015-01-14 04:18 pm (UTC)(link)
Felicity is my all time favorite show. I love it. It's beautiful. Watch it!

[identity profile] frelling-tralk.livejournal.com 2015-01-14 04:22 pm (UTC)(link)
I am quite tempted! What was it that you especially liked about it? :)

[identity profile] heavenly44.livejournal.com 2015-01-15 06:55 pm (UTC)(link)
A bunch of things. I really loved Ben's story since he was product of an abused household. Watching his growth and his storyline was beautiful. I loved the female friendships and Felicity was a really likeable heroine. I wasn't really a noel fan, but a lot of people loved him and the resolution to the felicity/noel storyline was really well done imo.

[identity profile] frelling-tralk.livejournal.com 2015-01-17 09:21 am (UTC)(link)
It sounds interesting :) I've had a look, but it doesn't seem to be on any streaming sites in the UK at the moment unfortunately, I'll keep an eye out for it though if it does ever appear on Netflix or Amazon Prime
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[identity profile] heavenly44.livejournal.com 2015-01-17 09:33 am (UTC)(link)
Ahh that's too bad. Well if you ever get a chance to watch def blog about it. Granted I prob like the show much because I grew up with it.

[identity profile] frelling-tralk.livejournal.com 2015-01-17 09:38 am (UTC)(link)
Granted I prob like the show so much because I grew up with it.

Aww yeah, I'm the same way with Dawson's Creek, I just have so much nostalgic love for those characters

[identity profile] apeygirl.livejournal.com 2015-02-01 08:32 am (UTC)(link)
Thanks for the link.

I was expecting annoying pun-filled blurbs like those obnoxious slide-show listicles give you, but this gave some nice succinct analysis of the shows.

Mostly speaking for Buffy, Angel and Smallville (I only casually caught any other shows). I really do wish the WB hadn't stopped existing as, between UPN and The CW, both shows' later seasons suffered in various ways, by most accounts due to network interference. I will say that Buffy held my loyalty and interest way more than SV did, though. Poor Angel just got shit-canned on a cliffhanger. :(

[identity profile] frelling-tralk.livejournal.com 2015-02-01 10:10 am (UTC)(link)
Gah I can't stand slide-shows, especially as they take a while to load on my iPad! Usually I won't even bother clicking through them

And I miss the WB too :( It seemed like there was more of a family feel back then with the stars all appearing in ads together for the network, and it was really the young people's networks with all of the teen drama that it had, whereas The CW never seemed to know what it wanted to do. They seem to be going more of the Sci-Fi/action franchise these days I guess? Which is cool, but (even though I'm admittedly too old for them these days lol) I miss when the WB was heavily focused around teen shows like Buffy, Roswell, Dawson's Creek etc, it just felt like they had more of a unifying theme of what they wanted to do I guess, rather than constantly taking shots in the dark with failed shows like The CW does
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[identity profile] apeygirl.livejournal.com 2015-02-02 02:23 am (UTC)(link)
I don't know who's running the CW these days, but I remember Dawn Ostroff put a crapload of energy into Gossip Girl and 90210, even with their low ratings, trying to brand it as a teen network and kind of willfully ignored SV and SPN with promotion (I remember badly photoshopped promo images. LOL).

They kept renewing them and they interfered where they could, but I really think they wanted a teen-friendly network of non-scifi/fantasy shows and wished they'd go away, not realizing that teens are as discerning as adults and just want shows aimed at them to be well-done,genre or not.

I suppose, after Vampire Diaries took off, they realized sci-fi and supernatural drama is where they get the fanbase that sticks and put all their eggs in that basket. How times have changed.

I don't know if this new direction happening sooner would have saved SV in the final seasons, but I think the paltry effects budget would have been better, at the very least.

[identity profile] frelling-tralk.livejournal.com 2015-02-02 04:48 pm (UTC)(link)
I think it's a man running the network now, Mark something? They do seem to be going a lot more with Sci Fi these days, ironic that Smallville was shunned so much when it was one of their top-rated shows, but these days it would probably get just as much love and promotion as Arrow and The Flash get today. I'm not sure if it would have affected the budget though, even though Supernatural is doing really well for them, they still have less money to spend because of the pay rises that you get by the time of the tenth season. That would probably have been an issue with SV regardless

With shows like Gossip Girl, they seemed to be favoured over SV because the demo that they attracted still brought in far more money than Smallville when it came to what they could charge for ad spots during that show, even though their actual ratings always seemed pretty bad to me, but I'm not sure exactly how it all works
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