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Okay I tried to post a link to the article "The CW Renews ALL 11 Series For Next Season, Including Veterans ‘Supernatural’ & ‘The Vampire Diaries’", but I kept being told that deadline is 'banned for spam' for some reason?

But anyway, awesome news! I was starting to worry about iZombie as so many people seemed convinced that the ratings were pretty terrible and it was at risk, so I'm pleasantly surprised that we're getting a third season. And I'm still here for The Vampire Diaries of course! Although I do hope that we will get confirmation on whether the 8th season is going to be the last or not, I'm not sure that it needs a 9th or 10th season, but I definitely wouldn't have been ready to let it go after this season when there's been no real build-up to it being the end

It feels strange that I only watch two CW shows these days actually, I used to watch four or five of their shows, but I'm not as into the superhero shows that they've been focusing on lately I suppose. Lol I know I'm too old for them these days, but I can't help wishing that they would bring back at least one high school focused teen show to their schedule, the WB and CW used to be known for those shows after all! Still I suppose that you can't really blame them for sticking with the male demo instead, those shows do seem to do a lot better for them ratings-wise

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Yeah, I was really surprised they renewed some of those. The Originals was the one I was worried about since it's the lowest rated show I actually watch. (I think? I don't watch Crazy Ex and I dropped JtV, iZombie, and Reign.)

I definitely think next season of TVD needs to be the last. They've been struggling a lot this season, both creatively and in the ratings. They need to announce it's the final season and take a long time to come up with a decent final arc on which to go out. Though it's been quite a long time since they've had a truly decent show-wide arc.

I don't know if I'd want another high-school show but I do wish they'd shake up their programming a bit. I was hoping Containment would do well but they don't seem to have any faith in that given it's late start date and the fact that they're already billing it as an event series. I'd like to see them do another small-town drama like Hart of Dixie or another female-driven action show ala Nikita. Though both of those shows did awful, ratings-wise :)

I still watch quite a few CW shows. The Flash, Legends of Tomorrow, TVD, The Originals, and up until recently, The 100. I may eventually finish out the season but I definitely won't stick around for season 4. Unless they get a new show-runner :)

I would definitely be here for another show like Nikita, I nearly always enjoy shows when it's the female character who's the one kicking ass. And yeah I agree with you on TVD, maybe season 8 will be an improvement though as they're obviously still having to deal with the ramifications of Elena leaving at the moment and Damon's struggles with that, season 8 could do better once they have more distance from her absence? The three year time jump did seem like a good way of dealing with that at first, but sadly it never really came together

I wouldn't say I love every show with an action heroine but I do love a lot of them and Nikita was one of the best, imo.

There was so much potential with the 3 year jump but they did so little with it that it feels like a waste. The storyline might improve now that we've actually caught up to the timeline but they had 15 episodes to do a nice slow-burn up to the jump and they just...didn't. Like why bother introducing the Bonnie/Enzo thing in episode 5 when they made absolutely no progress in their relationship by episode 15? Maybe we'll get a flashback or two to explain how they ended up as make-out buddies in the future but it won't be nearly as satisfying as it would've been if they'd taken the time in past 10 episodes to actually develop that relationship.

And it's the same with all of their future storylines. We see the beginnings of Caroline and Alaric raising the twins together but we have no idea why they're engaged. Did they actually fall in love at some point or did they just get engaged to give the twins a more stable home-life or to stop people from asking too many questions? How is Matt still alive in the future when none of his friends were around to protect him? And so on and so on...The show had the perfect opportunity to develop those storylines so we'd actually be invested in this future timeline but they chose not to, for some reason.

Yeah I was never sure what they were trying to do with Bonnie/Enzo, it seemed like a possibility for about two episodes after it was first introduced and Bonnie was suddenly attracted to Enzo in the present, then they went right back to keeping the emotional focus centred on Bamon. I suspect that they ended up regretting teasing Bonnie/Enzo after the initial testing of chemistry, but of course the time-jump means that they're now stuck with it as canon and need to figure it out.

Ditto Caroline and Alaric. I don't really know where they can go from here with that pairing, I would be surprised if it is going to be painted as true love, but it's going to be difficult to explain a break-up after they've supposedly been together for years happily raising a family

I suspect they went the Bonnie/Enzo route because they wanted to pair Bonnie with a Damon-like character to try to appease the Bamon fans without actually putting her with Damon. It didn't work and most fans hated it so I imagine they do regret going there which is why we didn't see much of it after those first two/three episodes. I think the actors had a smattering of chemistry (Kat Graham seems to have chemistry with everyone) and the writers could've made something of it if they bothered developing it but they didn't so it just feels really awkward.

Caroline and Alaric was a mess to begin with and I hope they end up revealing that they're not actually a couple but merely got engaged to stop people from asking too many questions/to give the girls a more stable home environment. If, on the other hand, they try to sell us on Caroline/Alaric having fallen for one another over the 3 years we missed, it'll be really hard to backtrack on that and put her back with Stefan. So you're right that they really painted themselves into a corner with that one.

Yeah that seems likely, although they should have known that you can't just duplicate one ship by treating the characters as interchangeable, Bonnie barely had any scenes or history with Enzo before this season!