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frelling_tralk ([personal profile] frelling_tralk) wrote2017-04-19 04:05 pm
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Dreamwidth rambling

Er I hope this doesn't cause any offense, but today I actually unsubscribed from quite a few of the DW accounts that I first added when we were creating them as LJ back-ups. All of those accounts still have mutual access, but I decided that I want to start to try and keep up with my DW flist as well (or "reading list" I guess) now that so many people have left for DW, and at the moment I find that I'm mostly just reading the same entries again that I've already read on LJ, so I've unsubscribed to friends that I'm already in touch with on LJ

For the moment I won't be cross-posting and using my own DW, but I am going to try and keep up with my "subscriptions" over there (is it just me, or is DW awfully impersonal??), and read through it after I've read my flist
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[identity profile] kazzy-cee.livejournal.com 2017-04-19 04:39 pm (UTC)(link)
Someone told me to create a filter, but then I still have to go over there and look at it (which I know I should do, but I'm just too lazy.....).

The thing that annoys me is that people don't want to be on Lj, but then they cross post. So they aren't really sure are they? They should just go if they don't want to support Lj otherwise it looks like they still support Lj and they might as well stay here. Also it makes it look like DW is an active site because everyone is backing up there and creating a history that looks like we've been there for ages. I don't see why they should get that 'history' without providing a nice place like Lj is...

*mutters*

I dunno - maybe I'm just fed up with people flouncing off and I know they don't read my journal here, but seem to expect me to read theirs on DW....!!

[identity profile] frelling-tralk.livejournal.com 2017-04-19 04:51 pm (UTC)(link)
Also it makes it look like DW is an active site because everyone is backing up there and creating a history that looks like we've been there for ages. I don't see why they should get that 'history'

Heh that's true, a lot of DW must just consist of back-up journals created from LJ. I must admit that I did do that myself because I found it so handy to be able to back it all up, but on the other hand I'm surprised that LJ ever allowed a rival platform to copy all of their codes (or whatever the technical term is) to the letter, it does seem a bit cheeky!

And cross-posting seems to be the big thing these days, but it just feels to me like it would be annoying to have comments in two separate places, that way there's much less chance of everyone seeing *all* of the coments and maybe joining in on a particular discussion. I've realised recently that a few entries on my flist that didn't get much response on LJ actually had a lot more comments over on DW, and at the time I'd no idea that there was more talk going on over there, so now I need to remember to try and keep track of the comments in both entries. It was so much easier when everything was all in one place :grumpy sigh:
Edited 2017-04-19 16:54 (UTC)
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[personal profile] wendelah1 2017-04-19 05:41 pm (UTC)(link)
The person who created LiveJournal based it on "open source" code.

[identity profile] frelling-tralk.livejournal.com 2017-04-19 06:08 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm not very technically minded, so I'm not really sure how open source works tbh. I know it's all aboveboard legally, it just seems a bit strange that we can copy literally everything from one platform to another, including everyone else's comments as well. But it's definitely useful to have that backup if LJ does ever go under
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[personal profile] wendelah1 2017-04-19 07:05 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm not very technically minded either but I know DW was designed to do that, just the way it was designed for cross-posting, in order to make it easier for people to maintain ties to both communities. I have, since 2009.

For people who, for example, lost their fandom communities during strike-through, DW provided a safe haven. Losing comment subject lines, another of LJ's so-called improvements, made it harder to have discussions, and impossible to do a RP community on LiveJournal. I'm sure that's why failfandomanon moved to DW. Dreamwidth is a safe space for LGBT fans. It's a safe space for political discussion. I'm grateful it exists for the sake of the thousands of Russians who moved their accounts this year.

And there are no ads on DW. I have a permanent account here so I don't see the ads but I know they're everywhere.
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[personal profile] shapinglight 2017-04-19 08:11 pm (UTC)(link)
flouncing off

I think that's pretty harsh if you don't mind my saying.

I do read your journal on LJ. I don't always comment because I don't always have anything to say. And I don't expect you to read my DW. Whether you do or not is entirely up to you.
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[identity profile] kazzy-cee.livejournal.com 2017-04-19 08:22 pm (UTC)(link)
I read my Lj and you still post and allow comments here, so I do still read what you write and comment. I do not expect you to read Lj if you don't want to and I don't expect comments.

The people I mean are the ones who are still posting here but disabling comments here which is frustrating. It's like a half way house trying to keep a foot in two places. And yes two people on my flist have made it very clear that they are not reading Lj but still cross post from DW. It's like shutting a door in your face after years of friendship and it hurts.
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[personal profile] shapinglight 2017-04-19 09:26 pm (UTC)(link)
And yes two people on my flist have made it very clear that they are not reading Lj but still cross post from DW. It's like shutting a door in your face after years of friendship and it hurts.

I'm sorry your feelings have been hurt, but whoever it was, I'm sure that wasn't their intention.
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[personal profile] honeymink 2017-04-20 12:34 am (UTC)(link)
maybe I'm just fed up with people flouncing off and I know they don't read my journal here, but seem to expect me to read theirs on DW

That's how I feel. And then never reply to my comments. I've stopped commenting on crossposted entries because of that.
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[identity profile] kazzy-cee.livejournal.com 2017-04-20 08:16 am (UTC)(link)
It's such a shame that online friendships are being affected by all this *sad*