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frelling_tralk ([personal profile] frelling_tralk) wrote2017-04-05 12:55 am
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LJ news

Control of LiveJournal as a blogging platform has been transferred to SUP Media LLC, a legal entity based in the Russian Federation. This decision stems from the urge to become closer to our users, most of whom live in Europe and Russia. Every LiveJournal user will be offered to sign the new User Agreement with SUP Media. Paid services, however, will still be provided by Live Journal Inc.

Despite the changes, LiveJournal remains an international blogging platform. Specifically, LiveJournal’s policy on user privacy and data security has undergone no major changes.


I know that a lot of people have been freaking out about this, but at the moment I'm not particularly worried, it seems similar to the user terms that most social media websites have? LJ just didn't handle it brilliantly by forcing everyone to sign the agreement in the way they did, but ultimately I feel like my content is still safer here than it is on somewhere like Facebook. Heck for all the 'but Russia' protests, I would imagine the recent change in US law (allowing your ISPs to sell your entire internet history) is going to have a much bigger affect on American posters then anything that LJ may or may not be doing...

[identity profile] potentiality-26.livejournal.com 2017-04-05 12:09 am (UTC)(link)
I'm not freaking out, I just think it's worth remembering to back up more than I have since the risk of being deleted without warning seems greater than it was before.

Also I think most people are trying not stress too much about what's going on in the US because there's literally nothing we can do about it. Leaving LJ (for those who are planning to do so) is relatively small in comparison.
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[identity profile] st-aurafina.livejournal.com 2017-04-05 12:25 am (UTC)(link)
I'll be breaking the TOS by talking about [livejournal.com profile] lilacsigil as my partner, so I'm feeling unhappy about it. I've ticked the box for now, but I think either I'll stop cross-posting or I'll disable comments on my LJ? I don't know. I'm still pondering.

[identity profile] erychan86.livejournal.com 2017-04-05 12:27 am (UTC)(link)
I totally agree with you! :)

[identity profile] daybreak777.livejournal.com 2017-04-05 12:54 am (UTC)(link)
Is this a deal? Yeah, it was weird to sign the agreement and then an hour later for LJ to explain it but that's how LJ always rolled no matter who owned what.

I don't think this is a big deal for me. I do feel for the Russian users. It may be a really big deal for them. I just hope people are happy here.
Edited 2017-04-05 00:55 (UTC)

[identity profile] rogueslayer452.livejournal.com 2017-04-05 01:14 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I'm the same. I was initially concerned but after the announcement and seeing other people kind of give a simplified explanation of what the TOS means, I'm not that worried about it at the moment. I do understandable people being confused and freaking out because it wasn't handled in the best way, especially since they kept this silent for moments before even making an official announcement about the situation which stirred much of the initial panic.

I do think backing things up on DW is a good idea regardless, because it's better to be safe and be cautious more than anything. But as far as I'm concerned, I'm not going anywhere.
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[personal profile] wendelah1 2017-04-05 02:08 am (UTC)(link)
I think you're right. This is aimed squarely at their Russian users, not us.

[identity profile] domluver.livejournal.com 2017-04-05 04:03 am (UTC)(link)
Exactly, everyone is just freaking out and complaining because "OMFG RUSSIA" but I don't see an issue. It's just a TOS, that people had to 'read' You sign a TOS on every site it's going to be there anyways.

I'm not leaving until they pry this from my cold dead hands.

[identity profile] supernutjapan.livejournal.com 2017-04-05 04:15 am (UTC)(link)
Seriously, you'd think they still had their cold war going. *hands* I agree the US government is just as or even less trustworthy these days.

[identity profile] bm-shipper.livejournal.com 2017-04-05 06:21 am (UTC)(link)
Uhm... so let the next "panic wave" begin... sorry, I don't really see a problem with this at all? I mean, it's almost a "common thing" now that you can log in on several sites with your Facebook or Instamgram accounts and the likes, but my LJ will still stay as private as it's now.

I have made a DW account years ago, but never used it and don't intend to start using it now...
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[personal profile] silverusagi 2017-04-05 06:23 am (UTC)(link)
It makes me a little leery, but I'm not into freakout mode yet. Though I completely understand anyone who feels differently. I just wish I knew what the TOS said before so I could see what's really changed.
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[identity profile] kazzy-cee.livejournal.com 2017-04-05 07:51 am (UTC)(link)
Totally agree with your last paragraph. We need to pick the things we are concerned with carefully and make sure they are important and relevant!!!

[identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/_profiterole_/ 2017-04-05 12:33 pm (UTC)(link)
The only difference with new TOS on other websites is that other websites (in my personal experience) don't make you tick a box again, they just mention that there are new TOS and that you can leave if you disagree.

I think this is an expected continuation to the server move in December. Hopefully people will stop panicking sooner than later.

[identity profile] malicat.livejournal.com 2017-04-05 12:44 pm (UTC)(link)
When that box popped up,I was a bit...shocked would be the wrong word? Concerned? I dunno,I have agreed to user terms countless times in my life and have probably signed my soul away,my firstborn child,bought a washing machine or whatever but when something suddenly changes (or so you think,I tried to read a bit of the new(?) TOS but I don't speak Law so I gave up quickly and just agreed) and it is practically forced on you,I do find that weird. Then again,LJ has always been shitty in their communication and after reading more,I'm not concerned anymore!

[identity profile] aksawy6.livejournal.com 2017-04-05 01:02 pm (UTC)(link)

For first thanks for this great post and I totally agree with you

[identity profile] howlin-wolf-66.livejournal.com 2017-04-05 02:10 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes, yes and yes! :-)
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[personal profile] complicat 2017-04-05 05:47 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, good point about the US law changes. I'm not particularly worried about this change affecting me personally, but I do think it's going to speed LJ's decline as some people will decide it's time to make the move elsewhere.
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[personal profile] elisi 2017-04-05 06:43 pm (UTC)(link)
LJ just didn't handle it brilliantly by forcing everyone to sign the agreement in the way they did
LOL. They have NEVER IN THEIR LIFE handled anything brilliantly...

[identity profile] tellshannon815.livejournal.com 2017-04-05 11:55 pm (UTC)(link)
I have to confess to signing but not reading fully, then when I next logged in I was seeing a lot of freaking out. But I feel much the same as you really.

[identity profile] stolenglimpse.livejournal.com 2017-04-07 07:09 pm (UTC)(link)
I realized something was going on when I couldn't log to the lj client due to that TOS thing. Didn't read it really but clicked my agreement. We'll see I guess. Gotta get back into posting direct to DW with the crosspost to lj I think. Not quitting lj yet though. Don't think I will but... time will tell.

[identity profile] batmarg.livejournal.com 2017-04-10 04:10 am (UTC)(link)
I don't feel like it's going to have a lot of effect unless you're talking Russian politics or something. That said I'm batmarg on DW too, just in case.

[identity profile] batmarg.livejournal.com 2017-04-11 04:34 am (UTC)(link)
I'm not willing to think that a sketchy russian company could have no effect on my lj, but I agree: way less effect than fb, which is literally using facial recognition software to help you speedy tag your pics.

I only get so detailed on here, so I'm staying, at least for the time being.

Edit: sorry, this was supposed to be a reply not a comment. Oh well.
Edited 2017-04-11 04:34 (UTC)