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The CW Fall Schedule has been announced

I know that this won't be popular with a lot of my flist, but meh I really feel like the CW have gotten O/T with superhero shows now, Friday is starting to look a bit out of place with the rest of the weeks line-up! :P I'm disappointed that there doesn't seem to be much space for anything else on their schedules at the moment, iZombie, The 100, Reign, and Riverdale are all being held back for mid-season. I assumed that iZombie had been picked up for 18 episodes again like last year, but apparently not?


And it's looking like The Good Wife spin-off is confirmed now CBS plans 'Good Wife' spinoff led by Christine Baranski

[identity profile] braverys.livejournal.com 2016-05-20 07:33 am (UTC)(link)
It makes me sad that iZombie will only be returning in midseason. I wonder why that is?

[identity profile] frelling-tralk.livejournal.com 2016-05-20 08:55 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah it wouldn't seem so overwhelming to me if say Arrow and The Flash were on the same night, I think that would work better definitely to have them in one block, otherwise it's a bit much when you look over the schedule and its shows with the same theme on every day but Friday's. I guess I can understand the reasoning behind it though, those shows usually have the highest ratings, so I suppose that they want to use them all as lead-ins for their other shows that are struggling. It's really shifting the direction of the network though :(
Edited 2016-05-20 10:16 (UTC)

[identity profile] frelling-tralk.livejournal.com 2016-05-20 08:58 am (UTC)(link)
Maybe they just couldn't fit it in anywhere else (my guess is either The Originals or iZombie lost their slot to Supergirl's late addition to the line-up), or it was always planned because the ratings weren't what they hoped for? I'm surprised because obviously with Reign and The 100 those shows always come mid-season and its expected, but there was never any hint that iZombie was getting cut back, it aired with the CW's other shows last year and had 18 episodes, so this does feel like the network is now downgrading them for whatever reason
Edited 2016-05-20 08:59 (UTC)

[identity profile] frelling-tralk.livejournal.com 2016-05-20 09:09 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah I'm puzzled at how iZombie is getting overlooked. I recently read that the network are hoping to get TVD back for another year after season 8, even after Ian and Kat announcing that they'll be done soon, and TVD usually gets about 0.3/0.4 in the demo, so it's like iZombie is doing any worse than that!

And yeah at least you would get a wider range of shows if say the CW decided to concentrate on Sci Fi or on drama for example, because there's a lot of very different shows you could get that fall under those categories, but when you're adapting shows like The Flash and Supergirl the formulas are all more or less very similar, so it does feel like the CW is being overtaken with the DC Superheros when it's *every* night but Friday's
Edited 2016-05-20 09:23 (UTC)

[identity profile] frelling-tralk.livejournal.com 2016-05-20 09:09 am (UTC)(link)
It seems like those shows are pretty popular with my flist, I wish that I could get into them more :(

[identity profile] frelling-tralk.livejournal.com 2016-05-20 09:11 am (UTC)(link)
I haven't seen that show, but it's definitely good to see a bit of diversity in the line-up with Crazy Ex-Girlfriend and Jane The Virgin :)

[identity profile] frelling-tralk.livejournal.com 2016-05-20 09:17 am (UTC)(link)
Riverdale is the one CW pilot I've been thinking of checking out, the others seem kind of meh, so of course Riverdale would be the one pilot that they hold back! :P Idk it doesn't seem like the CW is interested in reaching a younger demo as much any more when you look at their current line-up, but they've been branded a network for young females for so long that that's still what I associate them with

And yeah same, when I first heard about a spin-off for a streaming service I was actually picturing it as having shortened episodes of maybe 30 minutes in length and being a bit different from a network show of 40 minutes, but I'm not sure how exactly they're going to be doing it?

[identity profile] frelling-tralk.livejournal.com 2016-05-20 09:30 am (UTC)(link)
And it wouldn't be so bad if they were less spread out even, they could have had say Monday's and Tuesday's for Supergirl/Legends Of Tomorrow and The Flash/Arrow, but the way they've been spread out all week does cause me to have a bit of a knee-jerk reaction to The CW becoming the DC hour now. Especially with the CW having such limited slots for shows anyway because of them only airing Monday's-Friday's

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[personal profile] yourlibrarian 2016-05-20 05:35 pm (UTC)(link)
I understand the feeling. I do like superhero shows but not only is it indeed taking over the CW schedule, but the bigger problem is that the writing is so pedestrian on these shows. We tried the two new shows this season and gave up on both halfway through, and finally dropped Arrow as well. A bunch of well written shows will keep me watching even if they are all about the same thing.

It makes sense financially though. Not only are these shows giving the CW visibility in a way they really struggled with for their first 5 years, but because they're WB shows, they're making more money from these than just the initial ratings.

I'm quite surprised they were willing to give CEG another season. That's really a novel show and gave them their first bit of attention from a major award, but I heard the ratings were dismal.

[identity profile] girlwhowaited.livejournal.com 2016-05-21 02:27 am (UTC)(link)
So does that mean The 100 is being held off until like January or something? I just finished watching S3 today!

[identity profile] place-to-hide.livejournal.com 2016-05-21 04:02 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah. I guess they're doing this, to see if they can at least get more viewers for at least an hour every night or something with these superhero shows. Yeah, I know. :/
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[identity profile] marishna.livejournal.com 2016-05-21 06:51 am (UTC)(link)
The first thing I reacted to when I saw their lineup was the lack of iZombie until mid-season. I think it'll be better as a viewer because hopefully it'll mean fewer gaps between eps but I don't want to wait that long.

I dropped Arrow this season but am still watching The Flash. I've been dvr'ing Legends of Tomorrow to see if I like it but I gave up on Supergirl after a couple eps because the writing was shitty. The CW doesn't have that much for me at this point, although I'm interested in checking out Frequency and probably Riverdale.

[identity profile] frelling-tralk.livejournal.com 2016-05-21 09:45 am (UTC)(link)
And also all four of those shows are by the same man (Greg Berlanti), so inevitably they're going to have similar voices. It's not even a mixture of wildly different superhero shows like for example Gotham to go with The Flash, or Jessica Jones to go with Supergirl

It does make financial sense though, so I suppose we can't argue with that :( It's ironic looking because though because Smallville used to get fantastic ratings for the CW, especially when they had big event episodes with other superheroes, but they never had any time for that show. They moved it to Friday's, they refused to spin-off Arrow or Supergirl with the SV characters, back then they only valued the female demo and couldn't care less about SV's higher ratings...

And I've heard spec that they keep JTV and CEG because they're the only shows that bring them critical acclaim and golden globes, as opposed to their supernatural shows rarely getting awards recognition. It doesn't look like they're planning on investing in CEG long-term though if it's been moved to Friday nights?
Edited 2016-05-21 09:56 (UTC)

[identity profile] frelling-tralk.livejournal.com 2016-05-21 09:47 am (UTC)(link)
I think that's around the time that it usually airs? That show has always been mid-season, I don't think that they've ever aired it in September for whatever reason

[identity profile] frelling-tralk.livejournal.com 2016-05-21 09:55 am (UTC)(link)
That's true I suppose, the gaps do get annoying when they bring a show back for two weeks, then take another break, I'm mostly just worrying about how much the episode order might have been cut :( If it's 16 episodes then fine, but meh I don't want to go back to a half season of just 13 episodes...

I watched about 10 episodes of The Flash, but in the end I concluded that it just wasn't my thing. And I must confess that I only watched the pilot of Supergirl, I found the writing too clunky to continue with it. Those shows are clearly great adaptions when it comes to bringing the comic books to life, but frankly I found the writing of the characters on The Flash a bit shallow and hard to get invested in, so it wasn't really for me. I guess I prefer my comic book adaptions a little grittier and with more of a real world feel, whereas I get the impression that part of the appeal of shows like The Flash is that they do such a great job of feeling like they're bringing the comic book to life and making viewers feel like they're watching a live-action adaption of them?
Edited 2016-05-21 10:01 (UTC)

[identity profile] ever-neutral.livejournal.com 2016-05-21 01:07 pm (UTC)(link)
The Good Wife spin-off

WHAT WHAT WHAT?

I mean, Diane Lockhart deserves her own show, the goddamn queen... and I guess I'm happy that Lucca might get some character work other than Sassy Black Friend and weird Alicia/Jason shipper??? But overall I need help reacting to this.

[identity profile] frelling-tralk.livejournal.com 2016-05-21 01:15 pm (UTC)(link)
It seems pretty random to me too, apparently it's going to be set a year after the finale and feature Diane and Lucca, but TGW never really struck me as a show that had a ton more storylines left to tell, I thought that everyone involved agreed that it ended at more or less the right time? I could actually understand spinning Lucca off more as she's a pretty new character and there's a lot of different places they could go with her, but Diane was such a major part of TGW that I can't help feeling like this will just be more of the same old drama with the law firm, I'm curious as to how they plan to make it its own entity when it features a major player from that law firm
Edited 2016-05-21 13:15 (UTC)

[identity profile] favoritexrecord.livejournal.com 2016-05-21 02:47 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm interested to see how CW fits all these shows in midseason.
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[personal profile] yourlibrarian 2016-05-21 04:39 pm (UTC)(link)
I agree -- they had Smallville and SPN and didn't value either one. SPN is still around and now they're chock full of superheroes.

I thought the same thing when I saw that the Friday night slot, that they're cutting their losses with it. That way it stays on the schedule but it doesn't drag down ratings from higher lead-ins.

[identity profile] orangerful.livejournal.com 2016-05-22 06:16 pm (UTC)(link)
I have to wait until midseason for iZombie to come back??!?!??! Did CW not watch the finale?!?! I need to know what happens next!

[identity profile] frelling-tralk.livejournal.com 2016-05-22 07:19 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah I'm wondering how that's going to work, someone suggested that maybe some of the shows like JtV and CEG might have shortened seasons of 16 episodes, that way they could end them earlier and fit the mid-season shows in their slots

[identity profile] frelling-tralk.livejournal.com 2016-05-22 07:19 pm (UTC)(link)
Yep, it's just cruel to make us wait until next year!

[identity profile] janetmaca.livejournal.com 2016-05-26 03:38 am (UTC)(link)
The 100 seems to be always held back to that time, but it works with the episode order it gets. I'd say no complaints from me but damn, I don't know what to do with myself without that crippling anxiety. lol That being said, I'm not a fan of the superhero genre so the CW seems less and less like the network I'll stick with.

[identity profile] frelling-tralk.livejournal.com 2016-05-26 09:45 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah same, most of my shows used to be on the CW, but these days so many of ther new shows are superhero focused and I just can't get into them

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