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frelling_tralk) wrote2015-08-29 12:21 pm
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Still attempting to process the utter perfection that was the Hannibal finale!
I'm really not sure what I can say about it at this point, except that it was the perfect ending for me to see Hannibal and Will kill together for the first time, and then fall to their deaths in an embrace. I'm really wondering now what's going on with the show being cancelled and all of the attempts to get a fourth season, because everything came SUCH full circle that I really don't see how the third season wasn't written and filmed with the intention of being the conclusion of their story? I guess you could have it so that they both survived somehow, but that's just not the vibe I got from it, it very much felt like the end to me. That was a huge relief quite honestly after I was dreading a possible cliffhanger along the lines of season 1 or 2 where you can kind of see how it would work as an ending, but it would still leave you frustrated and wondering where the story would have gone next. Whereas this felt like as much closure as we could have ever hoped for. I'm really curious to hear what Bryan Fuller will have to say about it all, and where he saw a fourth season as having gone. This does make me look at a few things differently tbh, like Bryan Fuller not seeming *that* desperate to work to work out a deal with amazon in the time allocated, presumably he was satisfied with season 3 as a conclusion to the story?
It seems that the post-credits is open to interpretation as I know that the most popular theory is that Bedelia has captured by Will and Hannibal, but my immediate assumption was that she was actually cannabilising herself? (Lol how this entry must be coming across to someone who has never watched the show!) I guess that I was already so convinced that Will and Hannibal were both dead, so I saw that scene as Bedelia having completely lost her mind and acting on her own fears of Hannibal coming for her... Idk, that's again something that I would be interested to hear from Bryan Fuller on. I'm wondering about Will's plans now as well, towards the end when he was talking with Hannibal it seemed like he was making it fairly clear that he planned for all three of them to end up dead, but earlier with his warning to Bedelia about the meat being back on the menu it seemed like he was originally planning to let Hannibal escape for real? It makes more sense to me though that his plan was always to take Hannibal out with him in a final gesture of self-sacrifice, it was really only the talk with Bedelia that suggested otherwise?
And wow, am I feeling bad for Chilton! I know the show kind of made a running joke of the injuries that he would walk away from each season, but man what were they going to do for an encore in season 4, gouge his eyes out!! I really felt that it would have been better if they had just killed him, he definitely got the worst fate of any character. At least with Mason there was black comedy to be had in him feeding his face to the dogs, and it's not like he didn't deserve it, but seeing Chilton's lips eaten off his face first of all was the most gruesome thing I have ever seen (forever marvelling at how American networks will allow that, yet give Bryan Fuller a hard time about possibly showing a butt crack), and then being as horrifically burned as he was. Poor Chilton, he really got screwed over and used by everyone :( I did appreciate that they changed the canon for that incident from Freddie to Chilton, IMO that was definitely the right call, but I think it would have been kinder if Chilton hadn't of survived it quite honestly. If there had been a fourth season, I wonder how they would have used his character...
The show did do a great job of having it both ways though, so that you're just as sickened as Will when he's confronted with the video and what he's done, and yet at the same time you can't help smiling at Hannibal's sheer glee and the 'tragedy' putting him in excellent humour. And that was a nice touch to use the line originally used for Will in Red Dragon, with Hannibal instead hoping that Chilton isn't too ugly now. (And my heart almost stopped when Will first got the knife through his face, at first I wasn't sure if they were going to kill him right there and then, but it certainly seemed like the show was going to use some of the RD ending in having his face ripped apart and horrifically scarred. Thank God his face wasn't too messed-up in the end!)
Oh and Will's "mic-drop" moment with Hannibal shines a new light on episode 308, because it seems to suggest that Will calculated that whole speech on not wanting to see or think about Hannibal any more knowing how Hannibal would react, rather than it actually being about him wanting to cut all ties with Hannibal? Although I suppose that interpretation still works as it was about Will wanting to end the chase with Hannibal, but at the time of 308 I didn't realise that Will was manipulating Hannibal and actually wanted him to turn himself in
And finally I have too many favourite moments to mention, but just a few would be Bedelia calling Will a 'twitchy little man' and going off on him, Hannibal's holding the door open for Will with 'going my way' (Awww), Hannibal's face when Will is attacked by ~the red dragon~, and finally their eye contact just before they *ahem* penetrate him and take him out together. My actual favourite moment is of course:
My only wish is that it was easier to find some discussion on the episode! I did attempt to navigate the tumblr tag and found some nice gifs, but I was mostly left utterly baffled at Supernatural fandom making parallels with Dean/Castiel, even though I don't see that they have anything in common at all with how Bryan Fuller saw and developed Will/Hannibal? But oh well, it's a case of YMMV I guess :P
It seems that the post-credits is open to interpretation as I know that the most popular theory is that Bedelia has captured by Will and Hannibal, but my immediate assumption was that she was actually cannabilising herself? (Lol how this entry must be coming across to someone who has never watched the show!) I guess that I was already so convinced that Will and Hannibal were both dead, so I saw that scene as Bedelia having completely lost her mind and acting on her own fears of Hannibal coming for her... Idk, that's again something that I would be interested to hear from Bryan Fuller on. I'm wondering about Will's plans now as well, towards the end when he was talking with Hannibal it seemed like he was making it fairly clear that he planned for all three of them to end up dead, but earlier with his warning to Bedelia about the meat being back on the menu it seemed like he was originally planning to let Hannibal escape for real? It makes more sense to me though that his plan was always to take Hannibal out with him in a final gesture of self-sacrifice, it was really only the talk with Bedelia that suggested otherwise?
And wow, am I feeling bad for Chilton! I know the show kind of made a running joke of the injuries that he would walk away from each season, but man what were they going to do for an encore in season 4, gouge his eyes out!! I really felt that it would have been better if they had just killed him, he definitely got the worst fate of any character. At least with Mason there was black comedy to be had in him feeding his face to the dogs, and it's not like he didn't deserve it, but seeing Chilton's lips eaten off his face first of all was the most gruesome thing I have ever seen (forever marvelling at how American networks will allow that, yet give Bryan Fuller a hard time about possibly showing a butt crack), and then being as horrifically burned as he was. Poor Chilton, he really got screwed over and used by everyone :( I did appreciate that they changed the canon for that incident from Freddie to Chilton, IMO that was definitely the right call, but I think it would have been kinder if Chilton hadn't of survived it quite honestly. If there had been a fourth season, I wonder how they would have used his character...
The show did do a great job of having it both ways though, so that you're just as sickened as Will when he's confronted with the video and what he's done, and yet at the same time you can't help smiling at Hannibal's sheer glee and the 'tragedy' putting him in excellent humour. And that was a nice touch to use the line originally used for Will in Red Dragon, with Hannibal instead hoping that Chilton isn't too ugly now. (And my heart almost stopped when Will first got the knife through his face, at first I wasn't sure if they were going to kill him right there and then, but it certainly seemed like the show was going to use some of the RD ending in having his face ripped apart and horrifically scarred. Thank God his face wasn't too messed-up in the end!)
Oh and Will's "mic-drop" moment with Hannibal shines a new light on episode 308, because it seems to suggest that Will calculated that whole speech on not wanting to see or think about Hannibal any more knowing how Hannibal would react, rather than it actually being about him wanting to cut all ties with Hannibal? Although I suppose that interpretation still works as it was about Will wanting to end the chase with Hannibal, but at the time of 308 I didn't realise that Will was manipulating Hannibal and actually wanted him to turn himself in
And finally I have too many favourite moments to mention, but just a few would be Bedelia calling Will a 'twitchy little man' and going off on him, Hannibal's holding the door open for Will with 'going my way' (Awww), Hannibal's face when Will is attacked by ~the red dragon~, and finally their eye contact just before they *ahem* penetrate him and take him out together. My actual favourite moment is of course:
My only wish is that it was easier to find some discussion on the episode! I did attempt to navigate the tumblr tag and found some nice gifs, but I was mostly left utterly baffled at Supernatural fandom making parallels with Dean/Castiel, even though I don't see that they have anything in common at all with how Bryan Fuller saw and developed Will/Hannibal? But oh well, it's a case of YMMV I guess :P
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But then it's also interesting to think about how Will being heterosexual would work with his attraction to Hannibal, I read a very good post-finale fic along those lines...