he came across as pretty surly and self-indulgent in how he would wallow in the angst and how much Angels Investigations had wronged him
Yeah. For me it's just a question of what did he expect was going to happen? They were gonna thank him? Yeah, he thought he was doing the right thing, but I can't see how anyone would see the result being different even if it went as planned. If he'd have owned it instead of the 'i got my throat cut and my friends abandoned me!' stuff I'd have felt more for him. Also I cringe at his whole chivalry act in S4 regarding Lilah.
It's funny that Buffy is the character that you hear more about her being whiny and self-important, yet a lot of the time Ats had nothing but excess man pain with Angel and Wesley over the ~burdens~ that they carried
"Whiny" Buffy is always something I side-eye, tbh. I just...don't see it? Self-important, sure. That's part and parcel of being a proactive hero. It takes self-importance to say people need saving and I'm gonna do it. As far as whiny people in BTVS/AtS goes, she's not very high on the list, IMO.
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he came across as pretty surly and self-indulgent in how he would wallow in the angst and how much Angels Investigations had wronged him
Yeah. For me it's just a question of what did he expect was going to happen? They were gonna thank him? Yeah, he thought he was doing the right thing, but I can't see how anyone would see the result being different even if it went as planned. If he'd have owned it instead of the 'i got my throat cut and my friends abandoned me!' stuff I'd have felt more for him. Also I cringe at his whole chivalry act in S4 regarding Lilah.
It's funny that Buffy is the character that you hear more about her being whiny and self-important, yet a lot of the time Ats had nothing but excess man pain with Angel and Wesley over the ~burdens~ that they carried
"Whiny" Buffy is always something I side-eye, tbh. I just...don't see it? Self-important, sure. That's part and parcel of being a proactive hero. It takes self-importance to say people need saving and I'm gonna do it. As far as whiny people in BTVS/AtS goes, she's not very high on the list, IMO.