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frelling_tralk ([personal profile] frelling_tralk) wrote2014-01-25 05:05 pm
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I loved Katherine and all of the flashbacks and I was overall very happy with the episode, but it was hard for me to enjoy some scenes because Damon (and Matt!) were making me rage so much.

Okay first of all, Damon was never compelled by Katherine, he told Stefan this himself. He choose to learn from Katherine how to feed and kill innocent people when he was still human. Damon does have the right to dislike Katherine for messing him around when she clearly preferred Stefan, but blaming his entire life on her is just too much. Damon choose to develop a 150 year obsession with opening the tomb, that's why Bonnie's Grams was endangered. If anything Damon's obsessive tendencies were an inconvenience to Katherine when she was trying to fake being dead, she never asked for him to became completely obsessed with her when she'd just been looking for some fun. He has a right to be mad at her for playing him back in the day, but to blame Katherine for his own obsessions and failings, umm no. I couldn't stand the hypocrisy when they were all sat there blaming everything that ever happened ever on Katherine. Matt was doing shots with Damon (who killed Vicky purely for sport when he was bored), and Damon's going to raise a glass to Matt's saying that was all Katherine's fault?!?!?!??!

Both Klaus and Damon planning to torment Katherine on her deathbed was just really gross and sadistic, although at least Klaus never got there in the end. Stefan was the one brother who actually was compelled and mislead as to Katherine's true nature, but you don't see him blaming his entire life choices on Katherine and saying that she was the one who killed his father or whatever, the same way that Damon makes ridiculous analogies about all of his actions should really be owned by Katherine. I just couldn't stand him this episode, urgh when he was deliberately trying to torment Katherine by injecting her again so that he could keep going back to the flashbacks of her dead family, what a creep. And it was for the best that Elijah wasn't there frankly because he also tried to blame his rift with his brother on Katherine, and their arc in season 4 was mostly about whether Elijah can learn to trust Katherine after all of the terrible things that she's done, even though Elijah was the one hunting down human Katherine because of her not doing what she was told and agreeing to be sacrificed in a ritual by two men.

Really the other characters viewpoint of Katherine is so disturbing that I can never tell if we're meant to recognise it or not because in this episode especially they all seemed to see it that way when they were doing shots and tracing all of their problems back to Katherine ~the root of all evil~ Just as season 4 played it totally unironically when Elijah was having doubts about whether he could trust Katherine and how much he missed "my Katerina", and she had to prove herself by handing over the cure, yet there was no acknowledgment of their actual past and that maybe Elijah owed it to Katherine to give her that cure right back so that she could finally protect herself from his sadistic brother

There is just such a ridiculous double standard with Katherine. With both Katherine and Rebekah actually to an extent. Rebekah also constantly had it held over her head that she caused Elena's car accident and is therefore a bad and unforgiveable person, yet Damon's past deeds are almost forgotten and he gets to join in funeral rituals in 402 without the characters even acknowledging that he killed half of the people that they are mourning! (The characters do hold more against Klaus granted, but only for things that he's actually done like kill Jenna, while Katherine gets blamed whether or not she even played a direct role in what happened)

[identity profile] istne-pieklo.livejournal.com 2014-01-26 10:38 am (UTC)(link)
I guess Damon being such a bastard in this ep served to illustrate his point from the previous ep: that he's a baaaad person. Like we don't know that already O_o On the one hand, this is definitely not OOC for him, so I can make peace with him torturing Katherine (whoever says he has to be rational? he's mad at her, he blames her for everything, it doesn't have to logically be true), but ugh, that was such a low blow anyway. It made me want to snap his neck (which luckily did happen to him anyway XD).
Rebekah also constantly had it held over her head that she caused Elena's car accident and is therefore a bad and unforgiveable person, yet Damon's past deeds are almost forgotten and he gets to join in funeral rituals in 402 without the characters even acknowledging that he killed half of the people that they are mourning! This is sooo true, but apparently Damon gets a free pass now b/c Elena loves him. As much as I've always shipped D/E (originally b/c I just liked Damon more than Stefan, but now also b/c I found out I happen to like Stefan on his own but he turns into smth unbearable when he's having Elena-related drama), I feel that their ship is getting more and more unhealthy with each new ep. I understand that she can forgive the shit he did in the past. I don't even have a problem with that b/c well, love is a weird thing, etc. BUT he keeps doing shit! He's just told her he secretly killed some people while they were together! And her reaction was: ...that's ok, I love you? After that, it's really not all that strange that he gets pardoned for the type of things Rebekah or anyone else will never be forgiven for. *sigh*
maybe Elijah owed it to Katherine to give her that cure right back so that she could finally protect herself from his sadistic brother I have serious issues with Elijah in general. I want to like him because he often comes off as the sanest one of the Mikalesons, but GOD, his fixation on Klaus and family kills me! Yes, dude, we get it, family means a lot to you, but your brother is a major murderous selfish dickhead! Klaus is one of my top favourite TVD/The Originals characters, but I still don't understand where the hell Elijah's iron-clad faith in his redemption comes from. He's a douche, he doesn't want to change, so stop sacrificing everything for him. I feel like the show is going out of its way to set Elijah up as this noble, moral character but there is nothing noble about letting countless people die by Klaus's hand and then going all: Noooo, brother, this was baaaad, don't doooo that again.
LOL, sorry for the rant. >_< Anyhow, your post is great, the authors of this stupid show should see it and LEARN! :))

[identity profile] frelling-tralk.livejournal.com 2014-01-26 11:48 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah I think that there was meant to be a lot of carry-over from last episode when Enzo said that Damon was the most important person in his life and he ruined him and that he's a monster, so Damon kind of did the same thing this episode with saying that Katherine ruined him by teaching him how to kill. But I just don't see how he can make that argument when he said himself in the past that she never compelled or controlled him. It seemed like she affected his life the most in how obsessed he got with finding her again and how much he loved her, he never used to condemn her for being the one to teach him how to kill and making him into a monster, so it wasn't even a big deal to him until she rejected him and he started building her up in his head as the worst ever. Let's face it if anything Stefan was the one who first encouraged Damon to personally kill someone as a vampire anyway. I need to remind myself of those season 1 episodes, but from what I remember he never actually killed anyone with Katherine, she just taught him how to drink blood and how to get someone to pull over for you? Again yes bad, but Stefan was the one who WAS manipulated into drinking Katherine's blood and turning, Damon did it all willingly with the belief that they would be together after that, so I don't see how he can blame all of his choices on Katherine now. Blame her for misleading you over the strength of her feelings, but not the rest of it

And yeah I found it so awkward that Elena didn't even say anything to condemn Damon for pulling a total Klaus and killing people the summer that they were together based on some long-ago revenge plan, Damon is the only one condemning himself at the end of 510 for being a monster, all Elena will say is that she stands by her choice to be with him?!? I've seen speculation that Damon may have been the one that caused the crash that killed Elena's parents even as her father was involved in experimenting on vampires, and I bet that Elena would have something to say about that. Yet she's not even the one to break-up with Damon when she finds out that he's been killing people who had nothing to do with his original torture? I was cheering him on when he dug out the eyes of the man that was torturing him, but the rest of the story was really monstrous and you'd think that Elena of all people would emphasise with a survivor being left over and over again with all of their family dead and feeling like they're cursed. Instead she never even said much to Damon over it, just looked a bit sickened when she first found out that he was still doing it when they were together...

It might not sound like it from this entry lol, but I used to really enjoy Damon's character in season 1 when he was a villain and fun to watch, it just feels like the show is always making excuses for him now and having other characters give him a pass. It's season 5 now and he's still doing all of this shit and is totally unredeemed, really all that's changed about him in that time is that he's switched his obsession from Katherine to Elena and so he's protecting more of the regulars like Jeremy and Bonnie now to make Elena happy, but he still has less then no conscience when it comes to killing or harming people that don't mean anything to him
Edited 2014-01-26 11:58 (UTC)