Cordelia bringing up the Zeppo is always a reference I struggle with more, some of the references she made seemed a bit more unlikely for her character
True enough, but I handwave that away basically as - well the writers just wanted her to say something funny. But honestly I think Cordy was a lot smarter than she let on.
But then again so was Xander - re: his response to Buffy's William Burrows reference in New Moon Rising.
so I always imagine them watching a ton of old tv shows and movies, particularly when they were younger and before Buffy came to town
But when did cable tv become common? (And given that Xander is clearly working-class, his family wouldn't have been the first to get it anyway. My family certainly didn't until we had to because it was the only way to get tv anymore.) And channels like the American Movie Channel, etc just didn't exist when Xander and Willow were growing up; and the Captain & Tennille was ten years too early at least for them to remember. I still tend to think that the writers were using their own cultural references rather than ones that someone born in 1980 would most likely have been familiar with. IMO. Kennedy & Willow's reference to the movie Moulin Rouge (and Willow's habit of turning the DVD off before the sad ending -right there with ya, Will) is very au currant by comparison.
Re-reading it, it actually doesn't sound as bad as when I first wrote it (which came off as slightly mocking the first time around) but its still a little - weird, if that makes sense?
"We’ve laughed, we’ve cried, we’ve thrown up a little in our mouths, but most of all we’ve learned. Not you guys—us. We’ve learned what you like, what you don’t, how this TV show translated to the world of comics, and how it didn’t quite. We’ve lost a few fans along the way and, hopefully, gained a few...."
I was so excited to finally have an unlimited budget that I wanted to make the book an epic, but I realized along the way that the things I loved the best were the things you loved the best: the peeps. The down-to-earth, recognizable people. And Mecha-Dawn. (She has a tail!) So that’s what we’ll try to evoke next season..."
Huh-wha? I don't know about anyone else, but Dawn's transformations? The sexualized aspect and jokes during the Centaur stage (oh, and topless, etc)? the violation and loss of control of one's own body is FUNNY? I'm sorry but - no. Huge NO. And they supposedly "learned what we like" - which we is this? the numbers continue to plummet for the title, the artwork is abysmal and rote; and the violations of Buffy's body? STILL NOT FUNNY.
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True enough, but I handwave that away basically as - well the writers just wanted her to say something funny. But honestly I think Cordy was a lot smarter than she let on.
But then again so was Xander - re: his response to Buffy's William Burrows reference in New Moon Rising.
so I always imagine them watching a ton of old tv shows and movies, particularly when they were younger and before Buffy came to town
But when did cable tv become common? (And given that Xander is clearly working-class, his family wouldn't have been the first to get it anyway. My family certainly didn't until we had to because it was the only way to get tv anymore.) And channels like the American Movie Channel, etc just didn't exist when Xander and Willow were growing up; and the Captain & Tennille was ten years too early at least for them to remember. I still tend to think that the writers were using their own cultural references rather than ones that someone born in 1980 would most likely have been familiar with. IMO. Kennedy & Willow's reference to the movie Moulin Rouge (and Willow's habit of turning the DVD off before the sad ending -right there with ya, Will) is very au currant by comparison.
What was Joss's apology in the Buffy comics BTW?
I actually read it in the comic store (I don't have the money to spend on those things) so I had to look it up - hooray for the 'net:
http://www.darkhorse.com/Blog/228/ending-buffy-season-8
Re-reading it, it actually doesn't sound as bad as when I first wrote it (which came off as slightly mocking the first time around) but its still a little - weird, if that makes sense?
"We’ve laughed, we’ve cried, we’ve thrown up a little in our mouths, but most of all we’ve learned. Not you guys—us. We’ve learned what you like, what you don’t, how this TV show translated to the world of comics, and how it didn’t quite. We’ve lost a few fans along the way and, hopefully, gained a few...."
I was so excited to finally have an unlimited budget that I wanted to make the book an epic, but I realized along the way that the things I loved the best were the things you loved the best: the peeps. The down-to-earth, recognizable people. And Mecha-Dawn. (She has a tail!) So that’s what we’ll try to evoke next season..."
Huh-wha? I don't know about anyone else, but Dawn's transformations? The sexualized aspect and jokes during the Centaur stage (oh, and topless, etc)? the violation and loss of control of one's own body is FUNNY? I'm sorry but - no. Huge NO. And they supposedly "learned what we like" - which we is this? the numbers continue to plummet for the title, the artwork is abysmal and rote; and the violations of Buffy's body? STILL NOT FUNNY.