I absolutely agree that it's a great speech at showing just how emotionally low and messed-up Jesse gets, not to harp on it it lol but yeah I think it's just the YouTube videos using that speech as fact that drives me crazy. Not even the videos themselves, but how they represent that whole mindset of how Jesse isn't responsible for any bad choices or wrongdoing, everything in his life is the fault of Walt. As you say he was like an angsty teenager in that scene lashing out because he was so upset at the way Walt cut him out of the business when he had nothing else in his life, it's not meant to have every word quoted as truth and for viewers to see Jesse as nothing else but Walt's victim and a total woobie character. Even though he is, but at the same time that's not all that he is
And I'm not sure how much his parents cutting him off even bothered Jesse frankly because it was something he seemed used too and accepting off when they thought the joint was his and threw him out in early season 1, it wasn't broken beyond repair then but you certainly got the sense that none of the family could envision a period where things would ever change for them with Jesse. Of course I'm not saying that it didn't affect him in some ways too that his parents didn't give him another chance, but it was really losing Jane that made him so much quieter and sadder during this period. By the time of The Fly he's able to admit that it's nobody's fault (to forget what we know of Walt's role for a moment :P ) and is quietly accepting that they would have OD'd with the way that they were going anyway. Yet that speech never gets brought up much for some reason, even though that's an important moment of growth for Jesse, but fandom seems to prefer to stagnate him in the role of hurting little kid whose mentor figure is so mean to him and responsible for all the losses in his life
And I will have plenty more to say about Mike when I get to season 5 ;) Around that period so many people started wanting him to be Jesse's surrogate father instead of Walt, and I'm not sure how that would even work when Mike just wants out of the business and has no interest in the kind of co-dependent relationship that Walt and Jesse had. He might have looked out for Jesse a few times, but there was never the slightest suggestion that he wanted to start plying father figure to Jesse lol, he wanted out of the business and out of town with them all going their separate ways
ETA Oh and I thought that Walt really responded to Jesse's speech because of the truth in it when Jesse started off by saying that he's turning down Walt because he doesn't give a shit about Jesse, all he cares about is what he wants. Cause, while I do think that Walt cares about Jesse obviously, he knew that there was a LOT of truth in that from his recent treatment of the kid and that was something that Walt really needed to hear. IMO the rest of the speech shouldn't be seen as Jesse blaming Walt for all the losses in his life and being right to do so, but more Jesse saying that he has nothing else in his life BUT the partnership with Walt that he got so cruelly cut out from. Just as Walt tries telling him not to start dealing again earlier in the season and Jesse asks what else is he good at in life
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And I'm not sure how much his parents cutting him off even bothered Jesse frankly because it was something he seemed used too and accepting off when they thought the joint was his and threw him out in early season 1, it wasn't broken beyond repair then but you certainly got the sense that none of the family could envision a period where things would ever change for them with Jesse. Of course I'm not saying that it didn't affect him in some ways too that his parents didn't give him another chance, but it was really losing Jane that made him so much quieter and sadder during this period. By the time of The Fly he's able to admit that it's nobody's fault (to forget what we know of Walt's role for a moment :P ) and is quietly accepting that they would have OD'd with the way that they were going anyway. Yet that speech never gets brought up much for some reason, even though that's an important moment of growth for Jesse, but fandom seems to prefer to stagnate him in the role of hurting little kid whose mentor figure is so mean to him and responsible for all the losses in his life
And I will have plenty more to say about Mike when I get to season 5 ;) Around that period so many people started wanting him to be Jesse's surrogate father instead of Walt, and I'm not sure how that would even work when Mike just wants out of the business and has no interest in the kind of co-dependent relationship that Walt and Jesse had. He might have looked out for Jesse a few times, but there was never the slightest suggestion that he wanted to start plying father figure to Jesse lol, he wanted out of the business and out of town with them all going their separate ways
ETA Oh and I thought that Walt really responded to Jesse's speech because of the truth in it when Jesse started off by saying that he's turning down Walt because he doesn't give a shit about Jesse, all he cares about is what he wants. Cause, while I do think that Walt cares about Jesse obviously, he knew that there was a LOT of truth in that from his recent treatment of the kid and that was something that Walt really needed to hear. IMO the rest of the speech shouldn't be seen as Jesse blaming Walt for all the losses in his life and being right to do so, but more Jesse saying that he has nothing else in his life BUT the partnership with Walt that he got so cruelly cut out from. Just as Walt tries telling him not to start dealing again earlier in the season and Jesse asks what else is he good at in life