ext_111707 ([identity profile] falafel-musings.livejournal.com) wrote in [personal profile] frelling_tralk 2013-05-06 06:44 am (UTC)

I've seen sooo many videos using that as a voice-over with it seeming to be treated as some kind of universal truth that Walt has caused Jesse to lose everything and was responsible for all the bad choices in jesse's life, but with Jane and his family I'm not sure how big a difference it would have made if Walt wasn't around frankly.

If Walt hadn't come into Jesse's life, then Jesse would either be in jail or he'd be on the run. Crazy 8 was a police snitch who had given 'Captain Cook' up to the DEA. Without Walt, Jesse might have even been killed by Emilio since Crazy 8 had convinced Emilio that Jesse was the snitch. For all the negative impact Walt had on Jesse's life, Walt also acted as Jesse's protector at a time when Jesse really needed one.

About Jesse's parents. I think they were still open to reconciliation until they found the meth lab in the basement. While Jesse was cooking meth long before he met Walt, Jesse was never cooked at his own house until (again) Walt pressured him into it. So I guess what I'm saying is - I can see how Jesse would blame Walt for things like this, even if it wasn't all Walt's fault. But like you say, Jesse is an unreliable narrator lashing out.

I guess I'm just defending the speech itself because even though fans may have misappropriated it, I think it is a great moment in the show and for me, once the monologue shifts to Jesse's hurt over Walt's rejection we see (like Walt sees) that Jesse just wants Walt to care about him. He's devastated because he thinks Walt used him and discarded him, leaving his life in tatters. And even the early part of the speech is clever because it plays on Walt's guilt over Jane, even if Jesse has no idea how much Walt is responsible.

Also I totally share your feelings on Mike's speech in S5. So much so.

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