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Superman Returns spoilers...

I really loved the film. It was a bit longer than I thought it was going to be though...

I thought Superman and Clark were perfect. I liked seeing him run and enjoy his powers when young. But why did he wear glasses at that age? To prepare for a future life as a superhero???

Loved Lois. I know some people thought she was too soft, but other than the faint, I really liked her. I did think the "how many f's in catastrophe" was lame though. Even if someone thinks that word has a f in it, why would there be two f's??? And I wasn't sure what time it was set in, but there were mobile phones and computers, so presumedly spell-check?

Richard was so sweet. I loved him. It was really nice that they had a character like that to show the best the humanity had to offer. I still hope the sequel has Superman and Lois romance though :D

As for Lex, I thought there was a tendency to go a bit over the top/campy at times, but mostly I liked him. His scene with Lois was pretty good. It's a shame we only got confrontation scene with Superman though. I thought Lex being so sadistic there was interesting, but overall I would have preferred a more cool and calculating Lex.

I didn't like when Lois turned the plane around to save Superman, she should really have gotten her son to safety first. But oh well.

And I know Smallville and SR conferred, so I don't know if there were deliberate references to Smallville, but I noticed Lex referring to mythology just like our Lex does, and Lois saying that Superman never lies, which I took as a sort of wink at Smallville's Clark. Oh and I suppose that Jonathon was killed in season 5, to fit in with the film

Overall I really loved it, and Clark/Superman were my favourites :) I missed the tribute to Christopher Reeves though, I thought there would be one included in the end credits?

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I missed the tribute to Christopher Reeves though, I thought there would be one included in the end credits?

The movie was dedictated to Christopher and Dana Reeves, though I forget at what point in the credits this was said.

And I know Smallville and SR conferred, so I don't know if there were deliberate references to Smallville, but I noticed Lex referring to mythology just like our Lex does, and Lois saying that Superman never lies, which I took as a sort of wink at Smallville's Clark. Oh and I suppose that Jonathon was killed in season 5, to fit in with the film

What perplexed me by A&M statements about them meeting with Singer to make sure there were no egregious conflicts between the two is that the Superman films supersedes SV. Jonathan dies in the first film. And that's about it. Lex is like the film Lex, but more evil. Hackman's Lex was too soft because he was an opportunists. I guess prison hardens you. There's no conflicts I could think of that SV would need to address. I think they just wanted to visit the set :)

Superman tells Lois in the first film that he never lies (but Clark apparently does), so I think that was a callback.

I missed the tribute to Christopher Reeves though, I thought there would be one included in the end credits?
They placed it right after the initial run of credits. So after the cast's credits is a tag that says "Dedicated with Love and Respect to Christopher and Dana Reeve". Then the credits continue.

It was a bit longer than I thought it was going to be though...
It seemed long when I was in the theater, then the next day I found out it was 2hrs and 45 mins long and I was like "Damn!! 3 hours. No wonder I was restless". I've seen it twice, so I couldn't have been that put out.

And I wasn't sure what time it was set in, but there were mobile phones and computers, so presumedly spell-check?
LOL! I never thought of that.

I know part of the SR/SV collaboration was Al&Miles wanted to see what the Fortress would look like in the movie so they could do something similar.

And Bryan Singer said he deliberately didn't show a teen-aged Clark in the film because he felt that SV had covered that angle well enough. He said that since SV has been keeping the Superman torch alight for the past 5 years he didn't want to step on SV's toes since for many, it's the only knowledge they have of Superman.

Eh, I thought Lois had no personality at all. And she was so, so whiny. I don't understand the way they characterized her at all...she shouldn't be someone who has to whine at her boss like a child to get what she wants, and she shouldn't be someone who would put up with his sexist comments. She made no sense as a character. They gave no sense of her intelligence, or her strength or force. She was a milquetoast, average girl with no sense of humor.

It really makes me sad. I wanted so much for the movie to have a good Lois, but quite frankly the more I think about her, the more I don't really want to see the movie again just because of her.

Thought KB was just really, really bad, too.

Yeah, I thought the film was a bit long too, but I agree BR really shone as both Superman and Clark Kent. (I actually liked his CK better than Chris Reeve's, b/c it was a bit less phony.) (Don't get me wrong, I loved it!)

Great point about the glasses--it hadn't even occurred to me until you mentioned it, but yes, WHY would young Clark need those things?

As for KB, I was on the fence about her at first, but later on she came across as pretty feisty. (As for turning back the plane without dropping off her son--yeah, that bothered me, but maybe she knows Jason can't be hurt?)

And the only "continuity" I saw with SV was the design of the FoS. Everything else seemed to track the original two movies (I did think Lois' remark "he never lies" was a direct reference to Margot Kidder's "interview" with CR's Supes.)

KS's Lex was very enjoyable, but I would've liked more scenes with BR's Supes. And I couldn't help thinking how MR would've played the scenes, so I'm sure that distracted me. Overall, I think SV's take on Lex is much more interesting (at least, as originally conceived. :/)

I have to say that Clark/Superman was the best part over everything else. Brandon Routh was totally perfect. And he's such a cutie *g*

I didn't know there would be a sequel to it. Cool!!

The movie was dedicated to both Christopher and his wife and I think that appeared at the end of the credits but I could be mistaken.

I found most of the references made were to the original films (which I saw when they first came out - eek, *is old!*) and the 'original' mythology set up in those were what struck me as I saw this one.

Clark is supposed to have developed his powers over time as he gets older, so he is supposed to have worn glasses as a child (and been hopeless at sports - which they made reference to with Jason) and as his powers developed he didn't need glasses etc. In the original comics etc - he just starts out very strong, and the other things come later. I think that's what they were making reference to.

I didn't dislike Lois - but there was something really wierd about her hairline which kept distracting me. And what on earth did they do to her hair that made it look like dreadlocks at one point!!!

["Loved Lois."]

Gah, empty two dimensional excuse for a Lois.