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Well not entirely sure if I should be panicking right now or not, but I've set up a Dreamwodth account just in case anyway. Apparently you no longer need an invite to join!

I'm currently importing my LJ over there, but I still have zero plans to leave LJ. I would just hate to lose all of my content without warning, not to mention all of the people that I have friended over here, so I figured that it doesn't hurt to create that backup if the worst-case scenario does ever come to pass. I don't think the censorship concerns would affect me as I'm not all that political on here quite honestly, my main worry is that the site might go under for good without warning one day, I've been reading that it's apparently no longer all that profitable outside of the Russian user base

This is probably very shallow in light of all the censorship concerns, but I still just don't want to leave LJ. Frankly I would be sad to leave my permanent account to start all over again on another site with a tiny icon allowance and other silly little annoyances like that...Still if the LJ servers do ever go down for good then I would want to continue blogging, so I guess that Dreamwidth is where I'll be in that case...

Date: 2016-12-30 11:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] davesmusictank.livejournal.com
I have done the same but staying here on LJ.

Date: 2016-12-30 11:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] frelling-tralk.livejournal.com
Yep I've definitely got no plans to leave, I'm mostly panicking now about how unprepared I would be if I woke up one morning and LJ was down for good. At least this way I'll know that there's somewhere else I can re-connect with my lj friends, and that my entries will still exist on another platform. I've been on LJ for 13 years now, so it would be a real shame to lose all of that content
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Date: 2016-12-30 11:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lovepollution.livejournal.com
I know what you mean. Hell, I haven't updated my personal LJ for years, but I check my friends list religiously and would be gutted if it all went away. I too have a Dreamwidth as some sort of backup (I'm the same username as here), but I've yet to use it.

Date: 2016-12-31 12:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] frelling-tralk.livejournal.com
It really would feel like the end of an era if we ever lost LJ, but I suppose that it most likely has to happen one day :( It doesn't sound too good to me right now in terms of the incentive that the Russian owners have to keep it going, especially if a lot of the Russian user base is apparently now moving to DW
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Date: 2016-12-31 12:19 am (UTC)
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Same, honestly. Importing everything but planning to stay here.

Date: 2016-12-31 12:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] frelling-tralk.livejournal.com
It's reassuring to know that there's a backup out there, but yeah they'll have to drag me off LJ kicking and screaming *g*

Date: 2016-12-31 12:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] 12-12-12.livejournal.com
I'm doing the same thing--importing to DW, but staying here.

I wouldn't want to lose LJ either. There are just so many memories here, and it's such a valuable fannish archive. Sigh.

Date: 2016-12-31 12:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] frelling-tralk.livejournal.com
Yeah I know that LJ is a bit of a ghost-town these days, but it's still reasonably active enough that I would hate to lose it. Even if DW did end up experiencing a temporary boast through LJ shutting down for good, I still don't see it ever really taking off idk, I feel like a lot of users would just give up at that point and it would never really be the same

I'm just praying that five years from now we're not all doomed to tumblr and twitter as the only remaining fannish platforms!

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Date: 2016-12-31 12:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] malicat.livejournal.com
So apparently we have gone from 'OMG,the russians are spying on us' to 'LJ is going to die' in the matter of one day. I haven't heard anything about LJ possibly dying tho? Where did you get that from?

Date: 2016-12-31 01:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] frelling-tralk.livejournal.com
It's probably mostly paranoia on everyone's part, I was just reading that apparently they make no profit from the English user base any more, so if the Russian users end up being driven away then there's a high probability that LJ might be shut down on account of no longer being profitable enough. I've held off on creating a DW account for years now, but I decided today that it never hurts to be prepared for any eventuality, because really LJ still being around five years from now is by no means a sure thing sadly :(

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Date: 2016-12-31 01:02 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] xfirefly9x.livejournal.com
My dreamwidth is xfirefly9x. I've been using it as a back up for years now, just in case...

Date: 2016-12-31 01:08 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] frelling-tralk.livejournal.com
Cool, I've just added you :) I really don't like this whole 'subscribe' and 'grant access' business though, it feels needlessly confusing!

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Date: 2016-12-31 01:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] favoritexrecord.livejournal.com
I probably need to do that, since everyone else is. I'm not panicking either, I think LJ will be fine. But better safe than sorry.

Date: 2016-12-31 02:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] frelling-tralk.livejournal.com
That's how I see it :)

Date: 2016-12-31 01:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] daybreak777.livejournal.com
Ah, interesting. You want to use DW as a backup. I just want a back up. I've never posted to DW and it looks so clean and pristine. I can't start over with another system.

I always wondered if it would just go dark one day. Like MegaUpload and Grooveshark. Poof! Above all, it's my journal and I'd want to reread it someday. So I'd like to save it somewhere. Maybe I'll figure that out this weekend.
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Date: 2016-12-31 02:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] frelling-tralk.livejournal.com
I guess part of me always assumed that lj would be around forever, but everyone's worrying today has really stuck with me. I would have been completely unprepared if LJ does suddenly go offline for good, so I'm happy to have that safeguard at DW now anyway
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Date: 2016-12-31 05:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] place-to-hide.livejournal.com
I worry about LJ going under for good without warning too. My dreamwidth is the same as my LJ username.

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Date: 2016-12-31 05:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] domluver.livejournal.com
I did it for shits and giggles. Every couple of years though this pops up. Same handle: domluver :)

Date: 2016-12-31 10:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] frelling-tralk.livejournal.com
Yeah I'm trying not to take it too seriously as nothing's ever come of everyone's worries in the past, but still it is reassuring to know that there is somewhere else we can set up just in case LJ does ever go off-line

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Date: 2016-12-31 07:40 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] megan-moonlight.livejournal.com
I almost forgot I had a DW account XD
I'm megan-moonlight there as well.
I plan to stay on LJ as long as possible, too.

Date: 2016-12-31 10:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] frelling-tralk.livejournal.com
Yep, I'm still happiest on LJ definitely, fingers crossed that it stays around for a long time!

Date: 2016-12-31 07:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bm-shipper.livejournal.com
I think I created this "Backup" years ago when LJ had this massive problem and was out for weeks or such, but I never really used it and never "updated" the import... besides: I don't think I could use my layout there and all, but yeah...

I think my account must still be somewhere there as well :D

Date: 2016-12-31 10:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] frelling-tralk.livejournal.com
Are you under the same name as here? And yeah I get the feeling that I'll probably end up not keeping it up to date lol, but at least I know that most of my LJ is over there now anyway

Date: 2016-12-31 08:30 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] lost_spook
Same here, other than I've been crossposting for years already. I hate a round of LJ paranoia, though! So depressing and unhelpful. :-/

Date: 2016-12-31 11:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] frelling-tralk.livejournal.com
People on my flist were really panicking yesterday, but yeah I'm hoping that it's all just an overreaction. They usually take no interest in their non-Russian user base, so I can't see that changing all that much frankly. I did read somewhere else that the Russian owners actually already brought the servers to Russia in 2009??

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Date: 2016-12-31 09:30 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] nrgburst
I'm in the same boat. I am just so damned used to the LJ and this just sucks. UGH.

Date: 2016-12-31 11:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] frelling-tralk.livejournal.com
Yeah I really don't want to leave LJ, for a start I like having a permanent account with access to extra icons and other perks. DW would be starting over on a completely different platform, I'd have a free account with only 15 icons, I'd have a smaller flist (oh sorry, 'subscribers list') etc. It's never been as simple for me as saying that oh let's all go to DW, it's just swapping one platform for another more fandom-friendly one, when no there's some pretty big changes that go along with that

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Date: 2016-12-31 09:40 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] braverys.livejournal.com
I feel like I'm totally behind but looks like I'll have to make a dreamidth account too. How did you import your LJ to there?

Date: 2016-12-31 11:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] frelling-tralk.livejournal.com
I was very pleasantly surprised at how easy it was, if you go to this page https://www.dreamwidth.org/support/faqbrowse?faqid=127 you only need to enter your LJ username and password, and then it does it all for you. It brought pretty much everything over from my LJ (tags, memories, profile etc), it's only my icons that are missing

Hopefully it's something that we'll never be forced to switch over too, but it's reassuring to know that it's there

Date: 2016-12-31 12:51 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] kazzy-cee.livejournal.com
I don't know what all the fuss is about. Surely it makes financial sense for a Russian company to move information to their own country rather than rent space in another country? There are loads of Russian Lj users so I can't see them shutting the whole thing down overnight.

I'm going to back up to DW as I already have an account there which I don't use, but I shall stay here with my permanent account. It makes sense to back up, but I'm going to do it after all the fuss has died down as last time it kept not working as it was so overloaded and I like looking back on my entries (I use Lj very much like a paper diary).

Date: 2016-12-31 04:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] frelling-tralk.livejournal.com
I do feel like it's probably all a bit of an overreaction, but I'm happy that it gave me the incentive to back everything up anyway, at least this way most of us will be able to find one another again if lj does ever leave us.

Date: 2016-12-31 01:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] infinitewhale.livejournal.com

I've long preferred DW's much simpler interface, but no one is on there.

Date: 2016-12-31 09:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] frelling-tralk.livejournal.com
It's always seemed really dead whenever I visit it definitely

Date: 2016-12-31 04:05 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] complicat
I exported to Dreamwidth the last time there were rumours of LJ problems (or maybe the time before the last time...) and I've been crossposting ever since, but I still consider LJ to be my primary home and would hate to lose it. Even though LJ is quiet these days I don't have the same network of friends over on DW and don't really want to start over

Hopefully it's just a rumour and will come to nothing


Date: 2016-12-31 09:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] frelling-tralk.livejournal.com
LJ is definitely still my fandom home, I've always found that it's never really the same whenever a community or forum closes down and is forced to move, so I fear that would be the case if LJ ever did collapse and we tried to all start over again on DW. Once a community is gone, it's hard to get the same feel back elsewhere :(

Date: 2016-12-31 04:38 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] sabotabby
Same.

Honestly, the Russians-will-close-LJ panic has been going on for years now and it still hasn't happened. I think it's genuinely scary for the Russian LJers; they don't really seem to give a shit about English LJers.

But I backed up just in case.

Date: 2016-12-31 09:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] frelling-tralk.livejournal.com
Same, I'm not panicking as of right now, but it's nice to know that it's there if I ever do need a backup

Date: 2017-01-01 04:00 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] marishna.livejournal.com
I'm currently importing my LJ over there, but I still have zero plans to leave LJ. I would just hate to lose all of my content without warning, not to mention all of the people that I have friended over here, so I figured that it doesn't hurt to create that backup if the worst-case scenario does ever come to pass.

This is exactly how I feel about it. I saw someone else mention that some servers have been in Russia for a while, which makes sense, and now they're moving them all. Depending on the rental agreements it all makes perfect sense, being at the end of the year and how things are slower online at Christmas.

It's been so long since there's been a good, proper LJ panic that it's just nostalgic for me at this point!

Date: 2017-01-01 01:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] frelling-tralk.livejournal.com
Yeah it seemed like everyone on my flist started posting about it at the same time, so I had a kneejerk "should I be worried", but eh LJ has been owned by a Russian company for years now? I can't see that this will make all that much difference to English language based fandom anyway, they don't seem to have any interest in that part of their user base
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Date: 2017-01-01 09:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tasabian.livejournal.com
Thanks for the info. Do you know, if you import LJ over to DW, what happens to the setting on entries? IE, would a friends-locked entry on LJ be visible to all on DW? Thanks.

Date: 2017-01-02 03:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] frelling-tralk.livejournal.com
I was a bit worried about that too, but it seemed to copy them all over *exactly* as they were on LJ, the protected entries are still protected the same on DW. Pretty much the only real difference was my icons not showing up and the video links not working on DW, otherwise my profile, tags, flock, comments, memories etc are all the same

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Date: 2017-01-02 03:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sometimesartist.livejournal.com
Same basically. I backed my account up on Dreamwidth to have a record of all my posts but I never really got into actually trying to figure it out. I'm gonna use LJ for as long as I can... btw same username there as I have here.

Date: 2017-01-02 03:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] frelling-tralk.livejournal.com
Yeah a few more people have now left LJ to cross-post from DW, but otherwise most of the community is still here, so I don't really see the point in moving even if I did like it more over there. It does make for a good safeguard though

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